"Thor 3: Ragnarok" Starring: Chris Hemsworth, Tom Hiddleston, Cate Blanchett, Tessa Thompson, Mark Ruffalo, Jeff Goldblum, Idris Elba, Karl Urban, Anthony Hopkins, Taika Waititi (because nobody can stop him apparently) and Rachel House With an appearance by Benedict Cumberbatch because we have given up on confining characters to their own movies as well as Luke Hemsworth, Sam Niel and Matt Damon because we have also given up any pretense of this being a serious movie Previously in the Marvel Universe...um...okay, previously in the Thor movies...nope. Never mind. Nothing that has come before this has much of any bearing on this movie whatsoever. Just forget everything. Chrissy: Shouldn't be a problem for you. Diandra: Why do I keep inviting you? Chrissy: Because you are a glutton for punishment and who better to provide than a dominatrix? Also, I brought schnapps. Emilio: And I brought beer. Chrissy: We'll start with that. Diandra: Ugh. I'm getting flashbacks of "The Final Problem". It even has Benedict Cumberbatch and a never before mentioned evil sister. Chrissy: Well, this should be better than that. Emilio: Or at least a little less divorced from reality. So after the usual Michael Giacchino themed title card sinks into red smoke, we open on a pretty typical artist's rendition of Hell. Because even though this really doesn't bear much resemblance to the mythology version of Ragnarok, the same elements still have to be present. Chrissy: This isn't the Norse Mythology version, though. It's the comic version. Diandra: Oh, you mean the one where Ragnarok was a known cycle of death and rebirth and this cycle was triggered by Loki and his half-dead daughter Hela? Chrissy: That similar, huh? Emilio: Yeah, that's the 616 universe version. The Civil War #3 version was Ragnarok as a cyborg clone supervillain created because the writers killed Thor and readers really wanted him to come back. Diandra: Oh, is THAT where that came from? Chrissy: So is there any version of the comics where it looks like this? Emilio: Eh...sort of? Diandra: This is why I felt confident in my ability to fuck with the timeline when I was writing my fic. Chrissy: I thought you didn't like it when we constantly bring up your fics during recaps? Diandra: I figure I'm not getting around it here, so I might as well just lead with it. Chrissy: Okay, cool. So you won't mind if I ask when you're planning on finishing that story? Diandra: Don't push your luck. We close on a ball thing dangling from the ceiling that was looks like a leftover prop from one of the Pirates of the Caribbeans. "Now, I know what you're thinking," Thor intones. "Oh, no! Thor's in a cage! How did this happen?" Emilio: Ah, nope. Don't care. He non-answers that sometimes you have to get captured in order to get answers from people. We focus on him chained up inside the cage as he rambles about how it's a long story, but he's kind of a Big Deal since he saved Earth a couple times. But then he went looking for "some magic, colorful Infinity Stone things" that he didn't find and blah blah nobody cares and he's talking to a skeleton who might have been an actual person when he started talking. Something rattles and the bottom of the cage drops out suddenly, sending him spinning like a Cirque du Soleil reject through the air until the chain around him stops unraveling, two feet above the ground. He spins slowly around until he is facing the Devil/Abaddon, or, as he is known in the Marvel verse: Sutur. Sutur is slouched on a throne, cackling that he has the Son of Odin stung up like a Christmas goose. Thor marvels that Sutur is still alive because he could have SWORN Odin killed him, like, half a million years ago. Sutur says yeah...uh...I can't die until I fulfill the prophecy and destroy Asgard. Thor starts rambling about all these dreams he's been having recently about Asgard burning with Sutur standing over the ruins. Sutur is like 'yeah, that would be Ragnarok. The great prophecy that...' Thor says wait a minute and the camera cuts to him slowly spinning to face away from Sutur. "I'll be back around shortly. I really feel like we were connecting there." Because this is Taika's signature: scenes that look like outtakes. When he is facing Sutur again, he prompts him to talk some more about Ragnarok. Sutur starts speaking in riddles about his crown being reunited with the eternal flame, restoring him to his full glory. "I will tower over the mountains and bury my sword deep in Asgard's..." "Hang on," Thor says as he spins the wrong way again, conveniently stopping Sutur before can say anything that doesn't belong in a PG-13 movie. Chrissy: Ahem. Yeah. I assume Freud would be all over that shit? Diandra: I don't think you need Freud to work out the subtext in that one. Sutur watches, seething, while Thor spins back to face him again, rambling about how he isn't even MOVING and WHY DOES IT KEEP DOING THIS? Sutur sighs heavily. When Thor is facing him again, he says okay, so...you have to put your crown in the eternal flame and grow as big as a house? Is that what you're saying? Sutur is like BIGGER THAN THAT YOU, NINNY. Chrissy: Well, I'm sure you THINK so. Emilio: They always do. Thor points out that the Eternal Flame is kept locked away by Odin on Asgard. Sutur says yeah, well...Odin isn't on Asgard right now. "And your absence has left the throne defenseless." Thor ignores this part to focus on asking where the crown is then. Sutur points to the horns on his head and says it's the source of his power. Thor is like 'cool. So I just have to rip that thing off your head and I can prevent Ragnarok then?' Sutur chuckles and says stupid Asgardian...Ragnarok has already begun and he can't stop it. He stands and lumbers toward Thor, dragging a flaming hot sword behind him. He gets right up in Thor's face and rambles about how they will all bring about the end of Asgard and "all will burn". Thor is like 'cool as it might be to watch you grow really big and burn an entire planet...uh...pass. Also, I'm taking that "tiara" of yours and putting it in the vault.' Sutur repeats that he can't stop Ragnarok, so there's no sense trying. Thor says yeah, but..."that's what heroes do." He flicks his hand - tied behind his back - and makes a face when nothing happens. They stare at each other for a beat and Thor apologizes for not timing that hero moment right. There's a series of crunching sounds in the distance, getting closer before Mjolnir blasts through the nearest wall and Thor breaks from his chains and catches it, riding it a few yards away and landing in a (totally impractical) hero pose. Emilio: Are we bringing Deadpool references into this now? Diandra: Might as well. This movie is halfway to having the same irreverence. Chrissy: Eh...it's more like Guardians of the Galaxy. But that brings to mind another question: why are we not recapping Deadpool? Diandra: Because I'm pretty sure there would be no point in doing a recap wherein all the jokes are done for us and there's really nothing for us to add? Emilio: Oh, I'm sure we could think of something. Led Zeppelin's "Immigrant Song" starts playing as Sutur sneers a standard bad guy line about "Odinson" having made a big mistake here. Thor is like 'eh...did I? It must be Meday.' He starts getting less confident as some sort of creature snarls at him from the shadows and minions start swarming out of the walls and the depths of the cave toward him. He fights them back, Mjolnir turning into a blur as he spins it around and pulverizes several. He totally clears the area by jumping in the air and slamming down, hammer first, creating a shockwave. Sutur growls like 'guess I have to do this myself' and sends a stream of flames toward him. Thor spins the hammer, creating some sort of force field that basically serves the same function Doctor Strange's shields did in a nearly identical scene. Except Thor somehow breaks through the stream and slings toward Sutur, whacking him with the hammer. Several times. From different angles. He finally manages to knock the crown off after climbing a pillar and leaping onto Sutur, but since the camera cuts away we don't really see how that worked any better than anything else he was doing. He uses the chains to strap the crown to his back, looks at the minions still crawling out of the cavework, and calls to Heimdall to pretty please help even though they haven't spoken in a while and he's been kind of off grid. Nothing happens. We cut to the Asgard transit station where Heimdall used to be posted. Except Evil Mirror Bones is there instead, raving (with his natural Kiwi accent) about how Heimdall was an idiot for not using this job to make himself rich. Emilio: Nice "Star Trek" reference. Chrissy: That's one of the references she NEVER has a problem with. Diandra: Yeah, I'm a Trekkie. Bite me. There are two women listening to him brag about how he can access anything in the nine realms via the Bifrost. He waves at the pile of stuff off to one side that he stole and grabs a couple rifles out of it, saying these are his favorites. He got them from a place on Midgard called "Tex-ass" and he named them "Des" and "Troy". Oof. There's a lot to unpack there and I don't have the energy. Moving on. Thor is still fending off minions. The creature in the shadows turns out to be a dragon and it breaks free of the chains and lumbers toward Thor. Chrissy: Oh, does it talk? Because I bet it would have Benedict's voice. Diandra: I appreciate the joke, but considering the movie we're talking about here I would put my money on it having Taika's voice. He blasts through to the surface of the planet and calls Heimdall again. Still no answer. The ground starts rumbling all around him and the dragon bursts to the surface, picks him up in its teeth and shakes him around like a baby rattle. He drops Mjolnir onto its lower jaw and jumps back as this causes it to crash to the ground, pinned. He yells to Heimdall to PRETTY PLEASE IF THIS IS ABOUT THAT COMMENT HE MADE IN THE BAR HE WAS DRUNK AND HE'S SORRY! On Asgard, the women look at the podium from which Thor's voice is faintly drifting and ask "Skurge" if maybe he should get that. Skurge is busy proving that using those shake weights really does make you look stupid. He realizes he has an opportunity to demonstrate for the women what the Bifrost can do and grabs the giant sword, plunging it into the center of the podium. Chrissy: Not as impressive as when Sutur does it, but... Diandra: But a lot more impressive than that jerk off motion he was just making. Thor grabs Mjolnir back and flies away, the dragon giving chase. Just as the dragon is catching up and getting ready to clamp its jaws around Thor, the Bifrost appears and - after a brief title card and music that sounds like it was ripped from an 80s fantasy soundtrack - Thor lands in the transit station. The dragon's head flies out behind him, spraying green fluid all over Skurge and the two women. The head slides to a stop beside the women and the giant tongue flops out and they run away squealing like ninnys. Skurge rounds on Thor like 'dude. Thanks for the cockblock. Not cool.' Chrissy: You were ignoring the rather impressive, sexually suggestive act of activating the Bifrost so you could impress them by playing with some shake weights. You didn't have a chance. Thor is like 'and you are?' Skurge is offended that Thor doesn't remember him because they fought together on Vanaheim. Thor is like 'oh yeah, I remember now' except his expression kind of indicates that he doesn't. He asks where Heimdall is. Skurge says nobody knows because he's a traitor and a fugitive now. Odin charged him with negligence of duty, but he went AWOL before the trial. You know, because he can see fucking everything so he can only be found if HE wants to be. Thor starts walking away before Skurge is finished. Skurge protests that he has to announce Thor's arrival. Thor just spins the hammer and flies toward the city. Skurge sighs and starts running after him. Thor lands in front of the palace and frowns at the giant statue of a Christ-like Loki that has appeared since he left. There are also horns on the building behind him, but I think you can only notice that for a split second while he was still in the air so he probably didn't see it. Chrissy: I think there were horns on the Bifrost too. Diandra: Were there? Oy. He wanders over to where a play is just wrapping up. Two actors are melodramatically recreating Loki's death scene from "Dark World". The actor playing Thor is Liam Hemsworth (aka, not the one who married Hannah Montana, the other one) because hey, one brother is as good as another, right? And the actor playing Loki is Matt Damon because of course he is. Emilio: He is in everything right now. Diandra: Often in a surprise guest role. Like this. Chrissy: So, fun thought exercise: how does this character relate to the character he played in "Deadpool 2"? Is he just a doppelganger? Emilio: As I recall, they don't really look alike. Plus, if you go there you have to address the whole Johnny Storm/Captain America thing. Chrissy: God, I almost forgot about that. "Thor" yells at "Sif" to go get help and the ninny some poor casting director saw fit to play the most badass woman in Asgard goes running off shrieking. This is the only time Sif will be mentioned in this entire movie. Or ever again, apparently. Odin is watching the play lounged out on a plush couch eating grapes like fucking Caesar. Here's your first sign. "Loki" apologizes for trying to rule Earth and the whole thing with the Tesseract and that one time he tried to turn Thor into a frog. "Thor" just gushes about how wonderful Loki is and how he's the savior of Asgard and they will build a giant statue in his honor. The real Thor frowns at this and at Odin eating grapes and grinning like '.......the fuck happened since I left?' "Loki" wants to make sure the statue has the helmet with the big horns that are totally not compensating for anything. Then they get back to more familiar dialogue where "Thor" vows to tell Odin what he did and "Loki" says "I didn't do it for him" while "Odin" mouths the words along with them from his Caesar perch. "Loki" dies and "Thor" wails while a choir sings from the wings. "Odin", who is played by Dr. Alan Grant, arrives to act as Greek chorus for the audience. Chrissy: Is this another selective nerding thing? Diandra: Hey, we all know Jeff Goldblum is in this movie so at least ONE "Jurassic Park" reference was inevitable. He talks about how Loki gave his life for them by fighting back the Dark Elves and bringing peace to the realm. Chrissy: All he asked is that he be worshipped in the way he truly deserved. A child wearing blue body paint ambles out and "Odin" talks about how he found this blue skinned boy all those years ago on a "frostbitten battlefield" and he never dreamed he would one day be the savior of Asgard. He just saw a little icicle "that melted this old fool's heart". Everyone applauds except Thor, who is still trying to figure out how he wandered into Bizarro World. As the crowd starts dispersing, he greets dear old daddy, who chokes on a mouthful of wine, mutters "oh, shit" and then stammers out an announcement that his son Thor has returned and isn't that great? There's some scattered applause like a somewhat sarcastic "yay." Thor asks what that play they were just watching is called. "The Tragedy of Loki of Asgard," Odin says, quickly adding that the people wanted to commemorate Loki and who was he to argue? Thor says yeah, sure. Nice statue, by the way. Looks even better than the real thing was. "A little less weaselly. Less greasy maybe." I'm going to assume he's saying this to prompt a reaction. Which brings me to this: when Anthony Hopkins was told how he would be playing this scene, he said something along the lines of "sure, I can do that!" and then apparently decided to ham it up as much as possible. He responds here by basically getting huffy and giving Thor the stink eye. Emilio: [inaudible mumbling] I have an OSCAR, damnit. Diandra: Yeah, for 15 minutes of scenery chewing as Hanibal Lecter. So this is EXACTLY what he does best, really. Thor holds up the crown he has schlepped all this way and asks if "Odin" knows what it is. "Odin" identifies it as Sutur's skull, a weapon. Thor hands it to some lackey with instructions to go put it in the vault. This whole exchange serves no purpose now, but is obviously necessary for later, so. "Odin" nervously asks if Thor is planning to return to Midgard then. Thor says nah...see...he's been having this dream lately about the fall of Asgard. "Odin" suggests maybe his imagination is getting away from him and he should just try drinking warm milk or something. Thor says he thought of that, but when he went exploring a little he found the nine realms had devolved into chaos and the enemies of Asgard assembling and plotting to destroy it while "Odin" is busy organizing public performances and generally not caring about anything beyond Asgard. "Odin" says he was just respecting their freedom and independence. Thor tosses his hammer past "Odin" experimentally, just a few yards before it boomerangs back. "Odin" stammers that he was busy with a shitload of meetings. Thor asks if he's really going to make him do this. "Do what," Odin asks innocently. Thor throws the hammer off into the distance and reminds "Odin" that nothing will stop it from returning to his hand once he summons it. He grabs "Odin" by the scruff of the neck and thrusts him forward. "Odin" starts babbling that he's gone insane and doesn't he know he could be executed for this? "Then I'll see you on the other side, brother," Thor growls. "Odin" cries uncle, changes back into Loki and Thor shoves him aside before the hammer snaps back into his hand. Everyone acts more surprised by this than they have any right to be. I mean...how stupid are the people of Asgard? Really? Emilio: Yeah, that was weird. Did they really think Odin suddenly decided to build a giant statue to the adopted son who attacked Midgard? Loki freezes for a second, then recovers and turns to Thor with a smile like 'um heeeeeeeeeyyyyyyy, dear brother. What's up?' Skurge stumbles up and starts a formal announcement of Thor between gasping breaths but doesn't get very far before Princess Loki whirls on him and snaps "you had ONE JOB." Thor is like 'whatever, back to the most pressing question, which is what the hell did you do with the real King of Asgard.' Loki rants at him that everything was just FINE but of course the golden boy had to go and ruin everything by crashing the party. Thor starts storming toward him, forcing him to stumble backward onto the couch he had been lounging on before, babbling about how Thor should be happy because he had his independence and he was free and... Thor presses the hammer into his chest and he yelps that he knows where Odin is. And then because this movie is paced like it was written by a child with ADHD, we flash quickly to the Bifrost opening and then we're back on Earth. Chrissy: Like? Diandra: Haha. Yeah. Thor and Loki are standing in front of a retirement home called "Shady Acres" that is in the process of demolition. Thor is wearing the jeans and trucker jacket outfit he was wearing in the post-credit scene of "Doctor Strange" and Loki is wearing a three piece, entirely black suit. Loki is like 'yep. That's where I left him. Only then it was actually, you know, standing.' Thor is like 'yeah, you ever notice how all your plans turn to shit?' Loki snaps that he can't see into the future. "I'm not a witch." Thor asks why he dresses like one then. I would say this is a reference to the fact that in some version of the comics, Loki in female form is the Scarlet Witch, but I'm not sure it isn't just a throwaway joke. Chrissy: Scarlet Witch? So where did you get Lorelei from? Diandra: She's a seductress Loki used to distract Thor. Chrissy: Huh. Did that work out any better than the horse thing? Emilio: Not really. Chrissy: Didn't think so. Thor decides now is a good time to bring up his anger about the fact that Loki turns out to be alive after dying in his arms in the last movie. "I mourned for you. I cried for you!" Loki is like 'um...thanks? I guess I should mention that I didn't do it purposefully and I really thought I was dying? No? We're pretending that was never the way it was supposed to really go? Okay.' A group of girls descends on them, one asking if Thor could take a picture with them. Loki rolls his eyes while the groupies pose for a selfie with the golden boy. Then one girl expresses sympathy that Jane dumped him. Chrissy: Quick! We can't get Natalie Portman! What's the fastest way we can explain her out of the movie? Diandra: I mean...you could just not bother at all like you did with Sif. Chrissy: Who? Emilio: At least it's better than her death in "Revenge of the Sith". Diandra: She...died? Emilio: Giving birth to Luke and Leia. Yes. Except Leia said she remembered her in "Return of the Jedi", so... Chrissy: Which is exactly the sort of inconsistency you'd expect from a franchise that has been going on for decades. Emilio: Well...typical of George Lucas too. Though at least he was consistent in his inconsistency. Diandra: Hold on, back up a second. Luke and Leia were twins? Emilio: .............she's kidding, right? Chrissy: I really can't tell anymore. The girls flitter away and Thor mutters at their retreating backs that she did NOT dump him. He dumped her. Or it was mutual. Something. Loki pats him on the back like 'hey, at least she didn't write a song about how clueless you were to not realize your relationship wouldn't work out and then put it on an album that WILL BE ADVERTIZED ALL OVER THE PREVIEWS OF THIS MOVIE.' One of Doctor Strange's firey string portal things starts forming on the sidewalk immediately around Loki. Loki looks at it in alarm. Thor asks what the hell he's doing now. Loki swears he isn't doing anything and yelps as he drops into a void. The portal closes, leaving a business card that Thor pokes warily, calling Loki's name like maybe this is a trick and he turned himself into a piece of paper. He picks up the paper and the camera focuses on it to show that it isn't so much a business card as Doctor Strange's address written in fancy script. Giacchino's theme from that soundtrack plays a little except some idiots online insisted it was actually the theme to "Sherlock" because I guess everything Benedict ever does has to be related in some way to that one show. So Thor goes to the address on the card and bangs on the door of the Sanctum twice. The third time he is teleported right in and ends up swinging his fist through the air. He blinks at his surroundings and Stephen appears, floating in mid-air, at the other end of the room while Thor has his head turned. He gets Thor's attention by saying his name and flies toward him. Thor holds up the umbrella he's carrying like it is a weapon and Stephen is like 'yeah, you can put that down.' An umbrella stand appears next to him and Thor kind of smiles and slowly places the umbrella in it. There's a poof of light and they're both suddenly in the Sanctum's artifact room and Stephen is leaning against a table on the far wall looking annoyed. Chrissy: He went through a time warp and had a fight with Loki just now. Diandra: Oh, you are awake. Emilio: Was that before or after they fucked? Diandra: You're not helping, Emilio. Emilio: Oh, I didn't know I was here to HELP. Sorry. Chrissy: You're not. Don't pay any attention to her. And it was during. Thor picks up a metal thing from a display and notes that Earth has wizards now. He tries to put it back and it clatters to the table along with several other metal things. Stephen is like 'I prefer to be called Master of the Mystic arts and STOP TOUCHING THAT.' Emilio: Well, why did you bring him into the room with all the breakable stuff in the first place? Thor is like yeah, that's what I said. Who are you, WIZARD, and why did you summon me? Stephen introduces himself and says he has some questions for Thor. If he'll just sit down. There's a whooshing sound and Thor ends up in a chair in ANOTHER part of the Sanctum with Stephen sitting across from him. Chrissy: Will you quit showing off? Diandra: No. I am a drama queen. And now we're caught up to the mid-credit scene from Doctor Strange, which we play all over again. After Stephen determines he can make the Asgardians go away by helping them find Odin, Thor asks why he didn't just call if he knew where Odin is. He...didn't say he knew where he was, did he? He said he'd help find him. Except the writers seem to have gotten confused between movies here because Stephen is now saying that he spoke to Odin, who insisted on remaining in exile and not being disturbed. The fuck? Emilio: He never said he DIDN'T know where Odin is either. It's possible he was just leading Thor into promising to leave first. Diandra: Right, but...it still seems like there was an abrupt shift in the conversation with reference to something nobody actually said. Chrissy: Speaking from experience, I'd say this is exactly what having a conversation with someone who has attention deficit disorder is like. Diandra: ..........oh. Stephen says besides...Thor doesn't have a phone, so... Thor admits that he doesn't, but patronizingly says Stephen could have still sent an "electronic letter. It's called an email". Stephen: Yeah. Do you have a computer? Thor: No, what for? Chrissy: You could have sent a carrier pigeon! Honestly, it's like you weren't even TRYING! Stephen makes a face like 'oh, dear god, save me from this idiot', which Thor is oblivious to as he argues that Odin is no longer in exile, so he can come home now. Stephen says sure, he's in Norway. There's a woosh and they are transported to the library in the sanctum where Thor wobbles and spills his refilled glass of beer while Stephen calmly flips through a book, muttering about the incantation possibly requiring modification for Asgardians. He snaps it shut, declares "nope!" and teleports them to the attic...or somewhere. Except because Thor was leaning on the bookshelf, the whole shelf comes with them. Stephen says 'whoops, we didn't need that' and teleports them back to the library, at which point Thor is so dizzy that he knocks the entire top shelf of the bookcase down. He staggers over to put his beer down on the nearest table and asks Stephen to pretty please STOP DOING THAT. Emilio: No. It's fun. Stephen, crouched over a book, asks if he can have a strand of Thor's hair. Thor sneers that NOBODY messes with his beautiful hair, then yelps as Stephen sneaks behind him and just rips out a strand anyway. They are transported to the grand staircase of the sanctum for no apparent reason while Stephen uses the hair to perform what looks like a mystical variation of a cat's cradle. Thor is like 'what the fuck is your phobia about just WALKING places, dude?' Stephen tosses the string he was forming and it makes a portal a few feet away. A cliff scene appears in it and Stephen gestures and says Odin is waiting for him. Then he reminds Thor to take his "umbrella". Because the umbrella is actually Mjolnir, Thor just holds out his hand and they wait an uncomfortably long time while it flies toward him, smashing absolutely everything upstairs on its way from the sound of it. Thor brushes broken glass or artifact remains or whatever off the umbrella and belatedly remembers that he had a brother when he arrived on this planet and what did Stephen do with him? Chrissy: This is where I was kind of hoping that the scene from the preview [which turned out to come much later] of Loki all chained up in a corner somewhere was related to this. Diandra: I remember you saying as much when this movie came out. In hindsight though, chains seem too pedestrian for Stephen. Chrissy: Yeah, they would have to be enchanted or something. Diandra: But basically you were hoping Stephen had tied Loki up somewhere with bondage gear. Chrissy: Yeah. Although I think we established with his movie that he doesn't seem to know how to really use that stuff, so... Emilio: I'm sure Loki could teach him. Chrissy: Is this enough of a fic prompt for you? Diandra: Hasn't the whole Stephen-as-Loki's-prison-guard been done at least twice? Emilio: What's your point? Diandra: You're right. Never mind. Stephen is like 'huh? Who? Oh...sure...I guess you can have him back.' Chrissy: I mean, I didn't even get a chance to really break him in, but... Diandra: Okay, you can stop now. Chrissy: No, I really can't. He opens up another portal in midair and Loki falls out, screaming. He splatters on the floor, flips hair out of his face and snaps that he has been falling for THIRTY MINUTES AND WHO THE HELL WOULD DARE. Stephen mutters at Thor that he can "handle him from here." Loki, peeling himself from the floor, is like 'HANDLE me? Who the fuck do you think you are...' Chrissy: [interrupting] And then he gets his first look at Stephen and decides he would be perfectly fine being "handled" by him, actually. Emilio: I think Loki might be too much for Stephen to handle. He might need help. Maybe he could call Tony. Diandra: What the hell is happening here? Chrissy: Tony is such a sub, I don't think he would be much help. But then so is Stephen, so... Diandra: Can we get back to the recap, or are we just going to keep doing fic prompts? Emilio: We can multitask. And Tony and Stephen combined could probably handle Loki. Okay, I'm just going to cut the next five minutes of conversation involving the sort of devices Tony could build and Stephen could enchant to properly restrain a trickster god. Loki produces knives from nowhere because of course he does, sneers about Stephen thinking he's some sort of SORCERER and runs at him. Stephen waves the portal to Norway right over him and Thor and Loki faceplants in the grass. Chrissy: I WILL get my revenge one day. Or I will fuck that cocky smirk off his face. Something. Emilio: Both? Chrissy: Yeah, both is good. Diandra: So are we going to talk about the fact that Doctor Strange is clearly wearing eyeliner now? What is that about? Chrissy: It makes him look all mysterious with his cheekbones and his cloak collar. Emilio: [clapping] Nice "Sherlock" reference. Chrissy: One of us had to do it. Diandra: What did you think I was doing with the drama queen comment earlier? Chrissy: Oh, you were? I didn't catch that because Stephen is also a drama queen. Emilio: It's what Birdbox Bandersnatch does best. Chrissy: Don't you start with that. Emilio: Start with what? Diandra: [gives Emilio a thumbs up] Anyway. Odin is standing on the edge of a cliff, looking out to sea while seagulls circle overhead. Thor and - after he puts his knives away, brushes dirt from his pants and curses that idiot human a few times - Loki, approach him. He greets them by noting how beautiful this place is. Thor is like er...yeah...do you recognize us or has the Alzheimer's set in? Odin says of course he recognizes his sons and Loki does a little bit of a double take. He says he's been waiting for them and their mother is calling him. Thor orders Loki to lift whatever spell he put over him and Odin chuckles and says it took him some time, but he broke that himself a while back. He turns to Loki and declares that Frigga would have been proud and invites them both to sit before Loki can cry or something. They sit on some rocks and Thor starts by saying they have "failed" him, but he's pretty sure they can make it right. Odin says no, he failed them and now Ragnarok is coming. Thor is like 'but...I stopped Sutur...' Odin says no, not Sutur. HER. His life force was somehow the only thing holding her back and since he is ready to walk into the light or whatever, she's coming. Thor asks who, exactly, he's talking about. Odin says Hela, the Goddess of Death. Oh, didn't I tell you you had a sister? Yeah, she's was a violent psychopath and I couldn't control her anymore, so I trapped her in some time warp or something and technically she can't do much there, but once she returns to Asgard she will be totally unstoppable. Thor babbles that they can stop her together, but Odin is like DID YOU MISS THE PART WHERE SHE'S ONLY COMING BECAUSE I'M DYING?! "I love you, my sons," Odin says and Loki looks at him like '.........daddy?' Chrissy: This was literally ALL I WANTED in the first movie and NOW you finally say it, tacked on the end of an apology that life is about to turn to shit because our evil sister we never knew about is coming?! Then he cryptically tells them to "remember this place...home" and disappears in a cloud of sparkles. Or whatever. I don't know how to describe that. Thor and Loki watch the cloud of sparkly stardust as it blows out to sea. Thunder rumbles and it gets really dark suddenly and Loki is like 'um...are you doing that?' Sparks run along Thor's hand and he growls that this was all Loki's doing. Which part? Emilio: Whatever. He blames Loki for everything. Diandra: Well, like, 99% of the time Loki probably did cause whatever bullshit is going on at any given moment. Emilio: True. A black and green cloud starts forming behind them and they apparently decide whatever fight they were about to have there can wait. They walk toward it, Loki magically changing into his usual Asgardian leather thing and Thor slamming his umbrella into the ground to change into his battle armor with the umbrella turning into Mjolnir. Chrissy: Because Thor is also a drama queen. Emilio: Yep. The ominous tunnel to the underworld, or whatever it is, settles on the ground and Cate Blanchett, looking exactly like a Goth teenager, saunters out. The tunnel disappears and she notes that this must mean daddy is gone then. Thor is like 'so you're Hela then?' He introduces himself as Thor, the son of Odin. She doesn't see a resemblance. Really? He's literally the only child who actually looks like he could be genetically related. Chrissy: Yeah, Hela and Loki look more like each other than either of them look like Odin. Diandra: I can't tell if that's a reference to the actual story where Loki is Hela's father, the headcannon where she is his birth mother or my fic where Loki is pregnant with her in this scene. Chrissy: Does it matter? Those all boil down to the two of them being blood relatives. Diandra: Yeah, I guess they do. Emilio: There's a theory that Hela is Loki's mother? Diandra: Based on the assumption that he's only half Jotun, yeah. Emilio: Huh...that actually kind of works. Chrissy: Although, honestly, so does Diandra's ficwank of her being his half human daughter if you factor in time manipulation. "Perhaps we can come to an arrangement," Loki pipes up and Hela is like 'oh, you must also be one of Odin's. Which is totally why we look like we could be related.' Then she commands Loki to kneel and he's like '..............EXCUSE ME?!' She produces a long knife exactly the same way Loki just did when he went stabby on Doctor Strange and orders them both to kneel before their queen. Thor says 'uh....nope' and slings Mjolnir at her. She stops it mid air with one hand, smirks and squeezes until it shatters in a small explosion that blows the boys back a little. Thor is like 'but......but................ but................' Hela smooths her hair back into intricate antlers, produces a long knife in each hand, and sashays toward them. Loki yelps "bring us back" at the sky and Thor yells "no" and tries to run toward Hela, not getting far before they are beamed up by the rainbow bridge. As they are being shuttled toward Asgard, Thor points out to Loki that Hela is right behind them. Loki tries to throw a knife at her. She catches it, throws it back and he flies screaming out of the beam. Thor lasts slightly longer before she tosses him out too. She arrives at the Asgard waystation alone, where NotGimli seems to have taken over the controls, accompanied by Faromir and Skurge. Emilio: One of those names was right. Chrissy: Welcome to recapping with Diandra. Diandra: It's not that bad. Chrissy: I distinctly remember you showing me the notes you used for one of the Lord of the Rings movies and bragging that you could go an entire paragraph without using anyone's real name. Emilio: Ah, yes. I remember those. Didn't she call Sauron "S-Dog"? Diandra: That was Saruman. Sauron was either The Giant Cat Eye of Doom or The Great Flaming Vagina. Emilio: Right, which is why I got a text when you were watching "Desolation of Smaug" that read "FUCK BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH IS THE GREAT FLAMING VAGINA!" Chrissy: Yeah, that was a fun recap. Hela doesn't waste any time stabbing NotGimli and Faromir to death, cutting off Faromir's demands to know who the hell she is and what the hell she did with Thor. Chrissy: That was almost worth bringing them back. Diandra: Almost. Skuge, who was apparently mopping up dragon remnants, kneels and pleads with her to spare him because he's just a lowly janitor. She's like 'whatever. I'm the new boss around here. Wanna be my lackey?' She starts stalking down the rainbow bridge toward Asgard. We pan past the still plugged-in sword out into the universe, zooming past billions of stars and star systems while music that sounds like it was totally ripped off of a soundtrack from an 80s movie plays. We land on a planet that appears mostly covered in garbage. So...Earth in some near future timeline probably. Thor falls out of a portal in the sky spitting debris and plunges into a heap of garbage. He staggers upright and frowns at the continuing rain of crap all over the place and a giant red, ominous-looking portal in the distance. He narrowly dodges a giant chunk of what might have once been a ship before it lands on his head and climbs the nearest garbage pile to spot a city skyline in the distance. An alarm blares from a nearby hovering ship, which flies over to land in front of him. A bunch of Road Warriors rejects pile out and the first one asks Thor if he's a fighter or food. Thor is like 'um...I was just leaving if you nice people would point me to the nearest exist...' The guy is like 'food. Definitely food.' Chrissy: Well, you can't blame them. I'd eat him. Diandra: That came out kind of creepy, Chris. Emilio: Doesn't it usually? Chrissy: Hey... They order him to get on his knees...ahem...and he instinctively tries to call Mjolnir before remembering Big Sister broke it. So he resorts to fistfighting, which works right up until one guy shoots what looks like a net lined with tasers over him. They are distracted from efforts to...beat him into submission or something when another ship lands and Tessa Thompson staggers out. She takes a big slug from a bottle, tosses it into the trash piles and attempts to swagger down the gangplank of the ship while announcing that this one is hers, boys. She doesn't get very far before falling right off the ramp. The savages basically shrug and turn to resume their tenderizing of the "food". She staggers upright again and repeats that she is staking a claim on this one and anyone who wants him will have to go through her. One of the guys is like...uh...dude...we were here first. She says fine, she'll go through them and activates some robotic arm cannons attached to her ship, aiming them at the group and then just blasting them all to shreds of meat without asking any more questions. One guy who survives tries to take a run at her and she tosses him over a trash heap in the distance as effortlessly as Thor did a couple minutes ago before the net came out. This is your first clue about her identity. Thor untangles himself from the net and thanks her. She just tosses some sort of electrified disc onto his neck and zaps him unconscious before dragging him onto her ship. He regains consciousness as they are zooming toward the city when the Exposition Fairy slaps him awake and orders him to pay attention because this is important. Chrissy: Ah, the Exposition Fairy. Where has she been lately? Diandra: I haven't needed her as much since we started recapping whole series. Emilio: You could always bring her back for a Deadpool recap. Diandra: ..........subtle. Chrissy: Nah, Deadpool is his own exposition fairy. Tessa calls to base, identifying herself as Scrapper 142 and asking for "an audience with the boss". She leers at Thor and says she found something "special". Thor starts raving that he is the son of Odin and he DEMANDS to be taken back to Asgard. She's like 'oh, EXCUSE ME, your majesty' and zaps him via the thing on his neck again. Meanwhile, back on Asgard, Hela is striking her best sexy murderess pose standing in front of what was probably once the outdoor theater we saw earlier. She looks at the amassed army in the main square below and introduces herself as Hela Odinsdottir, the first born and therefore rightful heir to the throne and commander of the Asgardian army. Oh, and she's the Goddess of Death. Oh, and Odin is dead along with both of his sons ("you're welcome"). The army kneels, all except Hogun. Remember him? No? Well, it doesn't really matter any more than it mattered if you remembered the two guys she killed the minute she arrived even though they had larger parts in previous movies. He glares at her while she rambles about their former glory as the most powerful people in the universe and Odin's mistake of stopping at nine realms. "Our destiny is to rule over all others. And I am here to restore that power." Chrissy: See? It's not really that much of a stretch to think she's Loki's daughter. Diandra: Yeah, but they probably burned that bridge when they made Loki Thor's younger brother instead of Odin's. She commands them to kneel before her and join her glorious quest for, like, ALL the power even though most of them were already kneeling. Hogun is like 'yeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhh no. Whoever the fuck you think you are: I'm placing you under arrest. Come quietly or I'll order the men to attack.' She bristles because clearly he wasn't LISTENING to a word she just said and she thought they would be happy to see their long lost princess. Hogun doesn't back down, so she sighs, smoothes her hair back into antlers and proceeds to mow down the entire army in a sequence that proves she is ridiculously overpowered to the point of total invincibility. Chrissy: And can produce an apparently inexhaustible number of knives and swords from nowhere. Loki would be so proud of his baby girl. Emilio: On the other hand, if we're assuming they're going with the theory that she is his mother she would be SO disappointed in him. Diandra: She actually is speared entirely through by a sword at one point, which is basically how Loki died last time and she doesn't even slow down. So...is this ability to bounce back a power that increases in effectiveness over time and Loki is still discovering it? Chrissy: I'm not sure which theory you're exploring there, sweetie. Diandra: The one where the neutering of that scene from "The Dark World" in this one by claiming Loki was deliberately faking his death makes about as much sense as if they pull the same stunt to weasel out of his death in "Infinity War". He was originally not supposed to come back. Chrissy: Uh... Diandra: So my theory is that his ability to survive death is not something he originally knew he had. He's just always avoided any situation where he could be killed before. He thought he was dying and then he woke up all alone on Malekith's planet figuring he just got really lucky or something. But...wait...this still is assuming that Hela has the same abilities only more controlled over centuries because they're related. Emilio: In other words, we're witnessing Diandra's thought process on a future scene of her fic. Chrissy: Well, part of that works for cannon too, I think. Basically you're saying Loki hasn't quite figured out he's invincible yet? Diandra: Yeah. According to the research I did on comic Loki's abilities, he has a healing ability that makes him nearly impossible to kill. But because he's young here and hasn't seen much - or any - battle...he might not know the extent of his invincibility? Either that or the MCU is ignoring that detail. Emilio: Wouldn't be a first. So Skurge arrives and looks warily at all the carnage. Hela is stepping over the bodies and crowing about how much she MISSED this even though it does seem like a waste of good soldiers. One of the bodies starts moving. It's Hogun, because if someone has to get the last word in here it might as well be someone who is recognizable to the people who paid attention to the last two movies. Chrissy: Which doesn't really include you. Diandra: Can it. Hela asks if he's had a change of heart. He snarls at her to go back to whatever cave she crawled out of. She cocks her head at him like 'guess that's a no then?' He draws his sword and she produces a colossal spear and throws it through him, pinning him to the ground. Meanwhile, Heimdall - looking like a cross between Robin Hood and that bad ass chick from "The Walking Dead" - crawls up the side of the cliff the waystation is built on and steals the sword. We don't actually see a closeup of him, but it's clearly Idris, so... Thor wakes up tied to a chair that seems to sense he has regained consciousness and begins rolling down a track. "Fear not for you are found," a female voice says from somewhere. "You are home and there is no going back." Emilio: Great. It's a cult. Thor struggles futilely as the lady continues that nobody leaves this place, which is called Sakaar. The 3D screen around him lights up with several planets hovering in "space" as the current embodiment of the Exposition Fairy explains that the planet is surrounded by several cosmic gateways at the edge of the known universe. Chrissy: Try the restaurant, where the cow invites you to eat it. Diandra: And we're back to H2G2. Emilio: Did we ever leave? Exposition Lady says it is the "collection point for all lost and unloved things". Emilio: Garbage. It's a garbage planet. Chrissy: That or it's the mountain overlooking Whoville where that green weirdo who sounds a lot like Doctor Strange lives. Diandra: I thought we weren't acknowledging that version exists? Exposition Lady obviously assumes she is speaking to someone who was unloved as she says here he is "significant" and "valuable" and "loved" and no one loves "you" more than the Grandmaster. A giant Jeff Goldblum silhouette appears alongside the track and the skyline we saw when Thor landed pops up behind him as Exposition Lady explains that he built this place after he himself was cast out and lost and then established regular gladiator-like games to pit the "valuable" "loved" refugees against each other for shits and giggles. Oh, yeah, did she mention that "you" are now the property of the Grandmaster? Yeah. Hence why we call him the Grandmaster. And "you" will be meeting your new master and savior in five seconds, so "prepare yourself". Chrissy: Kind of hard when I don't have a hand free, isn't it? Diandra: This movie is right in your wheelhouse, isn't it? Thor screams and it probably sounded like a battle cry in his head while the video was still playing all around him, but the video stops suddenly and he's just sitting in the middle of a room where people are watching him shriek like a little girl. He looks around like 'none of you heard that. That didn't happen' and struggles while we focus on the Grandmaster looking him up and down like a piece of meat. He is flanked by 142 and another, more butch "scrapper" who kind of reminds me of Emilio's girlfriend. Emilio: Does that make me Jeff Goldblum? Diandra: If you're okay with Chrissy flirting with you every time she roleplays Loki, sure. Grandmaster gushes that this is a fine specimen and asks 142 if it's a "he". Chrissy: Supposedly. Grandmaster rambles that he loves when 142 brings him stuff because she always brings him the BEST stuff. He tries to prompt butch lady - who he dubs Topaz - to say 142 is the "best" or possibly the "bomb", but Topaz just calls her trash. Grandmaster glares at her and says no and how long were you waiting to call her that? Not nice. I would never call her trash. I love everybody. I am Garbage Planet Jesus. "Booze hag," Topaz mutters and Grandmaster apologizes for her rude behavior. He reminds Topaz that 142 brought him his beloved champion. Topaz snarls that he's ALWAYS reminding everyone of that. Grandmaster is like 'anyway, back to the script. What is this lovely slice of beefcake you've brought me?' 142 says he is a new contender. Grandmaster orders Topaz to bring "us" closer like he's a pampered monarch and Topaz wheels his plushy throne closer to Thor's bondage chair. Grandmaster stares at him for a couple seconds, then orders Topaz to pay 142. Thor growls that he is NOT FOR SALE and rips himself free of the restraints holding him to the chair. 142 just rolls her eyes and triggers the zapper on his neck again. He flops into the chair and shakes and Grandmaster chortles that this one is a fighter. 142 says the price is 10 million and Grandmaster orders Topaz to transfer the "units". 142 strokes Grandmaster's cheek as she walks away and he does an impression of a giggly schoolgirl. Emilio: Yeah, I'd probably do the same thing if Tessa Thompson touched me like that. Thor tries to snarl an impotent threat at her on her way out. Grandmaster gets out of his chair to get even closer as he asks who Thor is, exactly. Thor snarls that he is the God of Thunder and raises his arms like he's trying to summon a lightning bolt, but all he gets is a little electrical charge sparking from his fingers. Grandmaster teases that he didn't hear any "thunder" just then, but that sparkly thing was pretty cool. And then because it would literally kill us to stick with one thing for more than five minutes, Topaz announces that they've found the Grandmaster's cousin and they're wheeling Thor over so he can observe the reunion for some reason. Thor greets the clearly terrified man in an identical bondage chair awkwardly. Grandmaster cheerfully asks where "cuz" has been hiding all this time while he takes a funny looking staff from Topaz. Cousin whimpers that he's sorry. Grandmaster says of course you are, Carlo and "I pardon you". He does this while making a pope gesture. Carlo whimpers a thank you, but Grandmaster continues that he pardons him from "life" and touches the bulbous end of the staff to Carlo's chest whereupon he seems to catch fire and melt, just slowly enough that he has a chance to beg Thor for help. Chrissy: Taika would like to remind the audience that this movie is supposed to be FUNNY. Diandra: Yeah, I've had my suspicions about his sense of humor since I saw "What We Do in the Shadows", which featured a long scene of a vampire "comically" burning to death. Thor is, understandably, screaming in horror. Grandmaster whines that the fluids oozing off the chair are getting on his shoes. Because he is a raving psychopath. Once Thor stops screaming, he introduces himself and tows Thor to what looks like a bar where a perpetual party is going on. He repeats the whole "I hold Gladiator matches" thing that doesn't really need to be stated again, but here we are. Except he admits that the participants are not willing and Thor will be one. Thor is like yeah, not gonna happen buddy. I'm getting off this shitty planet and going back to Asgard. Grandmaster thinks Ass-Gard doesn't sound like a very pleasant place. Chrissy: Depends on whose ass you're guarding. Diandra: How did I know you'd say that? Grandmaster gets distracted playing with the DJ equipment and Thor looks at the group of people sitting on a couch to his right, surrounding Loki, who is talking cavalierly about that time he let himself fall into a wormhole. Ahem. Yeah, first of all, it seems Taika isn't content with keeping the inappropriate humor to this movie, he has to retroactively make all the serious moments from the last two movies a joke too. Second, it should be noted that Loki's new outfit - while similar to the one he was wearing when Hela shoved him from the Bifrost - is basically entirely blue with a yellow-lined black cape. And this is where I need to address a thing Tom did in an interview. The interviewer noted that he had several costume changes in this movie and asked if there was a "pretty woman involved". Tom, possibly misunderstanding the question, started rambling about how "Jeff Goldblum" would take Loki out to Rodeo drive and let him pick some nice new clothes. Emilio: Well, that IS the plot of "Pretty Woman", so he probably understood just fine. Diandra: He watched me while I tried them all on and offered input on which ones looked the best and long story short, that's why it's the same color as my eyes and has an easy open crotch flap. Chrissy: I love how the entire fandom collectively agreed immediately that this is how Loki got in the Grandmaster's favor. Diandra: It's pretty heavily implied that even if nothing actually happened, the Grandmaster is HOPING something might happen. Also, those interviews didn't help. Jeff Goldblum did one where he kept describing both Thor and Loki in terms of food like 'long story short, the Grandmaster is really interested in knowing exactly what Loki tastes like because he's probably delicious'. Thor starts calling Loki frantically. Loki looks up, gets that same "oh shit" expression his Odin mask was wearing earlier, and hurries to excuse himself before the others notice, rushing over to beg Thor to be quiet. They have a quick little 'you're alive?' 'so are you!' back and forth and Loki asks what Thor is doing here. Thor points out that he doesn't have a choice where he is at the moment seeing as he's restrained to a chair. Loki is puzzled by this as he notes that he didn't get a chair. So...they didn't put him through that little introduction? Chrissy: I assume they only do that with potential gladiators. Diandra: So we're assuming there was actually a third option that Thor didn't know about besides "fighter" and "food"? Emilio: Maybe the scrapper got to him first. Chrissy: Or maybe he said "it depends if I'm pitching or catching". Thor orders Loki to help him out of the chair. Loki whispers that he can't because he's made "friends" with the Grandmaster and he really wouldn't like that. Chrissy: Uh yeah [cough cough] "friends". With benefits. Diandra: He also adds that he's "gained his favor", which we've already discussed a paragraph ago when we were getting ahead of ourselves. Loki adds almost as an afterthought that the Bifrost brought him to Sakaar "weeks ago", which is how he's had time to weasel his way into the Grandmaster's bed...er..."favor". Thor is confused by this as he just got here. Grandmaster reminds them that he is literally right there by stage whispering "what are you whispering about?" He then exposits that time works differently on this planet. For example, on other planets he would probably be millions of years old and he's not using that in the exaggerating teenager sense. "But here on Sakaar," he says, then trails off and literally bats his eye lashes at Loki. Emilio: Pay me a compliment and I'll make it worth your while, if you know what I mean. Chrissy: You still owe me one for this morning. Loki looks at Thor, back at Grandmaster and just purses his lips like 'must you do this right now?' Thor looks at Loki like 'I'm still not sure what's going on here, but I don't like it.' Grandmaster says Fabio over here says he's the Lord of Thunder or something. Thor corrects that he's the GOD of Thunder and Loki can tell him. Loki laughs and assures Grandmaster that he's never met this man before. "He's my brother," Thor snarls, prompting Loki to change gears abruptly and add "adopted". Grandmaster is like 'yeah...didn't ask, don't care.' He asks Loki if Thor is a fighter. Chrissy: Well, he's certainly not a lover. Diandra: I should have smothered you when I had a chance. Chrissy: I was wondering how long it would take you to start playing Thor. Diandra: Who said I was? Thor laughs and offers to show the Grandmaster what kind of fighter he is if he'll take the thing out of his neck. Grandmaster thinks his attempt at threats is cute. He calls Thor "Sparkles" and reminds him that he will have to play nice if he wants to get back to this "Assberg" or whatever he called it. Emilio: Ass-ram. He says any fighter who defeats his champion gets their freedom. Thor sighs and says fine then, just "point me in the direction of whoever's ass I have to kick." Grandmaster says that's more like it, picks up a giant purple control and motors Thor's chair away. Chrissy: You didn't tell me you also use that thing to control motorized chairs! Emilio: It controls many things, my dear. Diandra: Ew. Thor gets thrown into a hallway that apparently serves as a cell. There are several human like creatures and one ugly rock monster propped against the walls around it. The rock monster, played by Taika because of course he is, tells him to "take it easy, man" when he beats on the door with his fists. While Thor is looking around like 'oh, dear god, what is this new reality', Taika monster introduces himself as Korg, the self declared leader of the ragtag group of gladiators. He says yes, he is made of rocks, but "you don't need to be afraid unless you're made of scissors." The guy next to him with blades for arms waves them at him. If you liked that joke, don't worry. Taika managed to work it into the script several times in different variations, so you'll hear it again. He introduces scissor dude as "Miek", a sort of insect creature with scissorhands. Chrissy: Missed an opportunity to call him Edward there. Diandra: I'm not sure the audience for this movie and that one align anywhere or not. Thor notes that Korg is a Kronan and asks how he ended up here. Korg says he tried to start a revolution but didn't print enough pamphlets so hardly anyone showed up. Get it? Because paper beats rock. Chrissy: [golf clap] Emilio: Honestly, I think the best thing to come from this gag was the game of rock, paper, scissors the cast was playing in an interview. Diandra: Specifically the part where Tessa responded to accusations of constantly throwing scissors by saying "we're not just scissoring each other over here"? Emilio: Yep. Anyway, Korg was forced to become a gladiator on trash planet as punishment. Thor starts running away as Korg rambles about how he's organizing another revolution now and winds up circling back around to Korg again. Korg is like 'oh, yeah, there's nowhere to go, so you might as well not waste your energy like that. So, are you interested in joining a revolution or not?' Thor mutters that this room doesn't make sense. Korg says that's fine because nothing on this planet makes sense. Thor sighs and asks if any of them have fought the Grandmaster's champion. Korg says yeah, Doug has. He calls to Doug, then remembers that Doug is dead, as is everyone else who has ever fought the champion. Thor asks what about Korg because he's made of rocks. As if to answer him, a rock falls off of Korg. Korg says yeah, no, he just does the smaller fights to rev up the crowd. He asks if Thor is planning to fight him. Thor growls yes and he's going to win and get the hell out of this shithole. "That's exactly what Doug used to say," Korg says wistfully. As Thor never gave a name, Korg dubs him New Doug. Chrissy: I love how they're totally managing to avoid Korg saying anything about the grand champion like literally anyone still didn't know who it was by the time the movie came out. Diandra: Yeah, it was in, like, all of the previews. All of them. And if you missed those, it's right on the menu screen of the DVD. Oop. Better haul The Exposition Fairy out of wherever she's hiding because there's a shitload incoming. Hela walks over some bodies in the main hall and bemoans the fact that nobody teaches the Asgardian history she remembers and was part of. She is speaking to Skurge, but he's basically just there to serve as a sounding board. She stops under a ceiling mural and growls about the "lies" depicted such as the ones depicting peace treaties with the frost giants and the royal family with just the two male heirs. She concludes that Odin was ashamed of how he got Asgard to where it was and throws knives at the ceiling. The plaster cracks and chunks rain down around them. It turns out there was another mural underneath that was just plastered over. This one is basically the Old Testament to the other one's New Testament. It depicts bloody battles with Hela riding a giant black wolf beside Odin on a horse that may or may not be Slepenir. Those who know Norse Mythology will recognize every character except Odin in that last sentence as a child of Loki. I have no fucking clue what their origin is here. Hela rambles about the conquests she helped Odin win to build his empire, gathering the realms under his rule. We land on an image of her standing beside Odin in the same battle suit with antlers she's still wearing, holding Mjolnir over her head. Hela concludes that Odin banished her JUST because she became too ambitious, which is probably her way of saying bloodthirsty. Anyway. Asgardian warriors used to be honored with burial underneath the palace, she says before leading Skurge underground. Skurge drools at the sight of the "treasures" on display that he apparently didn't find before. Hela just walks through them passing judgement on each. "Fake," she declares, shoving a gauntlet that looks a lot like the one Thanos already had by this point in the series off a pedestal. "Smaller than I thought it would be," she says, walking past Sutur's crown. Chrissy: Don't tell him that. Diandra: Yeah, guys are pretty touchy about that. She slows down as she's passing the Tesseract and notes that that one is "not bad". Chrissy: Just like your mother...father...uncle... Diandra: Younger adopted brother you never met. Yeah. But her real target is the Eternal Flame, which she just sticks her hand in, pulling out a smaller flame on her palm. Skurge looks like he might be starting to get the idea that this chick is crazy, but he LIKES that. She conjures a sledgehammer and blasts through a part of the floor - the flame momentarily disappearing because seriously how is she holding the handle with both hands AND a magic flame? She turns to Skurge, invites him to come see what "true power" really looks like and falls back through the opening. Chrissy: Literally everything about her is so similar to Loki that it's no wonder Odin freaked out and lapsed into a coma the minute Loki started turning against him. We cut to the subterranean level, where Hela does the standard (if impractical) superhero landing. She walks down one row of the crypt and we focus on the skeleton of one of the bodies as she passes. I hate that my brain instantly wants to question why the bodies are not in tombs or something or, you know, entirely turned to dust as they have to be thousands of years old. Chrissy: Yeah, there's a lot of suspension of disbelief required for this universe, hon. Pick your battles. She reaches a large slab where the carcass of a giant wolf is laid out and bemoans "Fenris, my darling, what have they done to you?" Uh...I'm thinking he died and got a heroes' burial? I'm not sure what your beef is here. Emilio: Also, that's a strange way to address your brother. Diandra: Ahem. Yeah, like I said I have no idea what their relationship to each other is in this universe. She stops in the center of the crypt over a stone decorated with a Triskel, announces that with the Eternal Flame they are reborn, and slams the hand holding the flame to the ground. A green shockwave spreads out over the crypt. Bodies start glowing green and roaring to "life". For some reason the wolf returns to his former fully fleshed and furred self though. Emilio: Because an undead zombie wolf is just too scary? Back in the Sakaar magic gladiator holding cell, Thor is saying a prayer for Odin in the hope that he finds his place in Valhalla. He is halfway through the prayer when Loki's voice joins in. Thor turns to face him. "Hurts doesn't it," Loki asks. "Being lied to?" Chrissy: I'm sorry, you're comparing your dad lying to you about your adoption to...what now? Diandra: I don't know. I suspect everyone involved in the story of this movie is an eldest child who just assumes the youngest is being a brat throwing a tantrum when they complain about constantly having to live in their shadow and being treated like the Perpetual Disappointment. Emilio: See, this is why you are like Loki, not Nebula. Diandra: That's probably a pretty minor distinction. Chrissy: Sorry, what? Diandra: Emilio and I determined that he and his sister are Loki and Thor and me and my sister are Nebula and Gamora... Chrissy: I always thought you and Grace were more like Sherlock and Mycroft. Diandra: ............. Chrissy: Of course, I think we determined in an earlier recap that Loki and Sherlock aren't all that different. Diandra: ........................... Chrissy: Please stop looking at me like that. Diandra: ........................................ Chrissy: Help me out here, Emilio. Emilio: Nope. You're on your own. Thor picks up a nearby rock and throws it at Loki. It goes right through him because he's just a hologram. Loki chuckles and says of course he's not actually going to visit Thor in person in this pit. It's gross. Thor throws another rock at him. He says he couldn't just jeopardize his standing with the Grandmaster for FAMILY, sheesh. It took him so long to win that psycho's trust. Chrissy: I have seen and done things I am not proud of. [shudder] Thor keeps throwing rocks as Loki suggests maybe Thor could win a place at his side too and then when the Grandmaster dies in some sort of "accident" that would totally never be traced back to Loki, they can rule this shitty planet. Another rock pings off the wall behind Loki's hologram, making a temporary hole in his face. Loki sighs and asks if Thor is seriously considering going back to Asgard because Hela shattered Mjolnir like it was made of cheap plaster so she is clearly stronger than both of them combined. Thor just stares blankly. Loki says fine then. Just leave him here. It's not like he's unfamiliar with being alone and unloved. Emilio: Oh, you are not unloved, precious. Maybe I should send you through that welcome video after all. Remind you of who loves you and who you belong to. Spoiler alert: the answer to both those questions is me. Diandra: Should I be frightened by how easily you just did that? Emilio: Did what? Chrissy: Is it weird that the only one of the three of us who DOESN'T normally drool over Tom Hiddleston is the one who has to perv over him thanks to the roles we assigned for this recap? Emilio: Would you rather be Grandmaster? Chrissy: No, I'm fine being Loki. Diandra: Yeah, it's the role she was born to play. And it would be really weird if she was flirting with herself. They stare at each other for a beat before Loki begs Thor to say something because he's been silent since Loki got here. Thor grumbles that Loki faked his death, stole the throne, stripped their father of power and left him on Earth to die, releasing the Goddess of Death so this is all kind of his fault. Okay, like, half of that is true. Loki is like 'oh yeah, well, I hope this champion I've never seen before despite hearing a lot about him kills you.' He already bet against Thor winning, so..."don't let me down." Thor throws a larger object as Loki is disappearing. Tomorrow. Er...I guess? The gladiator matches are in full swing and losers are being dragged out to jeers from the crowd. In the area where the gladiators suit up, Korg whines that there's still hair and blood on one of the weapons. He picks up a three-prong javelin, calling it a "fork" and asking if Thor wants to use it, then making a "joke" about it only being useful if you're fighting off three vampires in a close cluster. I say "joke" because it literally makes no sense to anyone who hasn't seen "What We Do in the Shadows" (also directed by and starring Taika) and even then it doesn't really make sense. Thor is like 'cool story. Wanna hear one about my hammer - the most awesomest weapon ever that my mean big sister broke and I'm still upset about it'? There's some inane "humor" here that I'm not going to bother with that leads to Taika... sorry, Korg...concluding that Thor had a very "special" relationship with his hammer and losing it was like "losing a loved one". Thor is distracted in his pondering of this psychobabble when he spots Valkyrie...sorry...Scrapper 42 or whatever. Chrissy: 142. Diandra: You mean I was actually close? I just always default to 42 when I don't know what a number is. Emilio: Because it's the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything? Diandra: Exactly. She is on the other side of a laser fence of some sort. He mutters that she's the one who brought him here. Korg says yeah, "watch out for those Asgardians, man." I would ask what species he thinks Thor is, but obviously the entire point of this line even being wedged in here is to reveal to Thor that she's Asgardian. He runs over to talk to her and she holds up the zapper control she still has for some reason in warning. Like, seriously, why is she still the one with the punishment controls if she sold him to the Grandmaster? And why am I still questioning the logic of literally anything in this movie? Chrissy: I believe we've had many talks before about your masochistic tendencies? Diandra: Ugh. Thor assures her he just wants to talk about the fact that Asgard is in danger. She sighs and takes a swig of beer, flashing a tattoo on her arm at him so he can conveniently just notice it now and realize she is a Valkyrie. He rambles about wanting to be a Valkyrie, but they wouldn't accept him on account of he has a penis and isn't that awesome that there's this elite force that is all woman? You know what? I just realized that this whole scene is just as poorly written as literally anything everyone was bitching about in "Guardians of the Galaxy 2". Which is why when he finishes this awkward "woke" spew and she asks "are you done" I feel it on a spiritual level. Somebody calls "Lord of Thunder" to the arena and he begs her to help him. She just waves and starts walking away. Apparently deciding that not actively pissing her off wasn't working anyway, he calls after her that she must be a traitor or a coward because Valkyries swear an oath to protect the throne. Her hackles raised, she stomps back to remind him that they aren't ON Asgard, they are on Sakaar and she is not a Valkyrie (anymore, presumably) and he can go fuck himself because this place is like the Hotel California. Get it? Because you can never leave? Chrissy: Applying Taika's method of joke telling? Diandra: That obvious? Emilio: I thought it was just a dad joke. Diandra: You know...that might explain it. Like...all of it. The 80s music starts up again as some guards drag Thor to a little room with a chair for the requisite Stan Lee cameo. Stan approaches wearing a comically absurd outfit that looks like a mockup of alien clothing from the 60s and holding what looks like an overly large version of those things you use to grab cherries or pickles from the bottom of a jar. He tells Thor to hold still because his hands aren't as steady as they used to be. Somehow, Thor knows what he's about to do because he vows on Odin's beard that Stan will not cut his hair unless he wants to feel the wrath of the mighty Thor. Chrissy: Sure, Sparkles. Stan just laughs and pushes a button, causing five mean spinning blades to pop out - four rotating ones around one big center one - and Thor whimpers and begs "kind sir" to pretty please not do this. We go into the arena, where a giant hologram of the Grandmaster is warming up the crowd for the big showdown of the night. We see Valkyrie sitting in some sort of floating pod over the arena and Loki arriving in the VIP box seat and grabbing a martini from a tray. Chrissy: Excuse me, I believe I ordered this shaken. Diandra: How did I know you would find a way to work in a James Bond reference? Hologram Grandmaster introduces the "Lord of Thunder" and the crowd boos as Thor - hair butchered short with war paint stripes on his face - steps into the ring. "Watch out for his fingers, they make sparks," Grandmaster says mockingly. The ground rumbles and puffs of green smoke explode overhead as the Grandmaster introduces the "unique creature" that is his undefeated champion. Thor puts on a familiar looking winged helmet that all the fanboys have apparently been begging for for the past...is it four movies he's been in? He stands ready with a club and shield and then to the surprise of nobody but the Asgardian princes the Hulk bursts out of the not quite open door into the arena, a giant axe in one hand and a sledgehammer in the other. Thor screams "yes" happily to the confusion of the audience and Loki starts backing out of the VIP box, muttering "I have to get off this planet". He turns and runs flat into the Grandmaster, who is like 'and where do you think YOU are going, sweetcheeks?' Emilio: I made sure to save you a seat [pats lap]. Chrissy: Oh, god...ahem. No thanks, I feel a headache coming on. Emilio: You had one last night too. And the night before that you said you had to wash your hair. And the night before that you claimed you had food poisoning. I'm starting to think you're just making up excuses. Chrissy: You are smiling way too much over there. Diandra: I'm just enjoying watching you be on the other end of this for once. Loki slumps on one end of a very long couch and the Grandmaster perches on the other. Thor waves at the Grandmaster while Hulk is playing to the cheering crowd and yells that he knows this guy from "work". If this line doesn't really make much sense it's because it was literally written by somebody's child. Grandmaster looks to Loki, who clears his throat and pretends not to notice. Emilio: And come closer. I promise I don't bite. Hard. Thor is like 'hey, buddy, how's it hanging? The rest of the guys thought you were dead. Where have you been? Let me tell you all about what's been going on in my life right now because I haven't whined about my sister breaking my favorite toy in a few minutes... Oh, hey, and Loki's not dead again. He's right up there in that box trying to make himself as small as possible. Wave hello!' And the camera cuts to Tom Hiddleston doing an impression of a 404 page not found error screen. He is so still that the first time I saw this I had to look at the people moving in the background to verify that the film hadn't just frozen accidentally. Thor gushes that he's so happy to see Bruce and Hulk is like 'me no Banner. Me Hulk. Hulk smash!' Thor rolls clear of his first blow and gets batted clear across the arena with the second. He gets up, decides 'fine, I guess we're doing this' and produces a couple swords in nearly the same manner as both of his siblings. Grandmaster is chortling and applauding and Loki is looking nauseous. Hulk blasts Thor through a wall, the sledgehammer embedding beside him. Thor recovers and uses the hammer to slam Hulk in a circle halfway around the arena, destroying the wall the whole way. Everyone goes quiet like '....seriously? Did he just...?' Thor cautiously approaches Hulk as he's pulling himself from the rubble and tries Natasha's line: "hey big guy. Sun's getting real low." He holds out his hand just like she did and Hulk, dazed, starts reaching for him. Chrissy: Oh, hey, did she forget to mention that whoever does this to Hulk basically imprints on Banner? Like... he's totally going to fall in love with you now. Thor vows that no one will hurt Hulk anymore. And just as it looks like this might actually work, Hulk performs the same maneuver he did on Loki in the first Avengers, slamming Thor around like a rag doll. The audience cheers and Loki leaps up excitedly and yells "Yes! That's how it feels!" He catches Grandmaster looking at him funny and claims to be a big fan of the sport who just got caught up in the moment. Emilio: Hmm...no, I'm just imagining you getting this worked up in a different context. All flushed and unable to control passionate outbursts. Diandra: Seriously, I'm so glad you're here, Emilio. Emilio: Me too. Thor rights himself, mutters "screw it" and starts fighting in earnest. He hits Hulk a few times with the sledgehammer, then uses it to shatter the axe. Hulk starts getting pissed and whacks the hammer from his hands, roaring. Thor blusters "what's the matter with you? You're embarrassing me! I told them we were friends!" There's a little more back and forth before Hulk pins him to the ground and pounds him repeatedly and I should really rephrase that. Chrissy: [snort] Sounded fine to me. Emilio: Is this providing inspiration for you, sweetcheeks? Because it's really revving my engine. Chrissy: So we're sticking with sweetcheeks, huh? Emilio: Yeah, it basically stuck after Diandra sent me that screenshot of Tom Hiddleston's ass with a note that she had a "sudden urge" to grab it. Chrissy: She did? Diandra: What? No, I didn't. I don't know what he's talking about. Emilio: Yeah, I can show you. It's still on my phone. Diandra: Okay, now I'm regretting inviting you again. Chrissy: Hey, I'm not judging. I'm honestly impressed by any human behavior from you, SHERLOCK. Loki winces and Grandmaster laughs delightedly as Hulk makes a Thor shaped hole in the arena floor. Thor starts having flashes of a vision of Odin standing on that cliff in Norway. And then suddenly his whole body charges with an electrical overload, his eyes going white and he blasts Hulk away from him with a bolt of lightning. Nobody has any idea what just happened and the audience watches with shocked gasps as Thor gets up and stares at his still crackling limbs. They charge at each other and meet in the middle with a blast that sends a shockwave to the edges of the arena. The audience, fickle as they are, starts chanting "thun-der! Thun-der!" As Thor starts marching toward Hulk again, Grandmaster decides he's had enough and triggers the shock disc on Thor's neck, knocking him out. The audience boos, Valkyrie rolls her eyes and Hulk jumps building high in the air in what everyone seems to recognize as a finishing move. Thor's eyes open as Hulk comes hurtling back down toward him and the screen goes black. We come up again on the Asgard palace where Hela is asking Skurge what that pounding noise is. Skurge says um...it's the "common folk" banging on the palace gate. They're not really happy with the new arrangement and they're forming a resistance. Hela just cocks her head and her zombie army turns and heads for the gate without any verbal orders. She prompts Skurge for some small talk to pass the time, but loses patience when he tries to tell her his life history. She says she meant to ask about his "ambition". He says he just wants to prove himself. She starts rambling about how in the good old days royalty had executioners to both literally execute people and figuratively help execute the royal's "vision". She mutters that of course it was mostly the former and little of the latter, but anyway would he like the job? She produces a giant axe from thin air and hands it to him. Together, the two lead the army of the undead soldiers to the waystation on the rainbow bridge, finding out too late that the sword controlling the Bifrost is gone. She orders Skurge to round up all those resistance people he mentioned earlier. So we cut right to a family running through the woods, being chased by undead soldiers and running flat into Heimdall. Heimdall politely pushes them aside and dispatches the soldiers chasing them like the badass he has always been. When the last one has been decapitated and the tree beside him split, he apologizes to the family for "that" and says "come on". They follow him without question because who wouldn't? He takes them to a door in the side of a cave, which he opens by tracing some runes in the ground. Inside are the rest of the people rescued from Hela's takeover. Heimdall assures the family they will be safe here. Back on Sakaar, four women are tending to a shirtless Thor, which is probably three more than is necessary. He startles awake screaming suddenly and they all scurry in fear. Chrissy: Maybe they were preparing his body for burial? Diandra: Oh. Yeah, that might make sense. Emilio: Would you girls like me to take over for a minute? Diandra: No, we're fine. Emilio: Are you? The screen has been frozen on shirtless Chris Hemsworth for a few minutes now. Chrissy: We're discussing ancient Norse burial rites, how they relate to ancient Greek burial rites and how they might be being interpreted here. Emilio: No you weren't. Chrissy: Oh, was that just in my head? Diandra: Good effort, Chris. Thor gets up and staggers around the room a bit, taking in the weird décor including a bedframe that seems to be made out of the jawbones of a giant animal. He also gives us a good look at his physique from all angles. Chrissy: Nice that they're at least still making concessions to their female audience even though the rest of this movie seems to have been designed as a giant "fuck you" to them. He finds his chestplate on the ground and pulls it on. Diandra: [grumbling] He keeps wandering until he is startled by a splash in a dimly lit pool. There is a vague Hulk-like outline in the pool. Thor is like 'hey, buddy, we're friends again, right?' Chrissy: Actually, you're my war prize. That's what those girls were preparing you for. Diandra: I...um...wow. Emilio: This isn't water. It's lube. Chrissy: Yeah, we figured it would go easier if they just threw you in here, but you scared them before they could finish. Emilio: Oh, hang on, I have to switch to the Grandmaster now. You should be grateful. I wanted to just kill you in the middle of the arena, but sweetcheeks convinced me that making you a living sex toy for the Hulk would be more fun. Chrissy: It took a lot of convincing. My knees are killing me. Diandra: Okay, um, you guys can keep writing your little fanfic over there while I continue with this recap, hm? Thor tries to ask how long Banner has been like this, but Hulk doesn't really understand the question. "Hulk always been Hulk," he grunts. Thor switches tactics and asks how he got "here". Hulk, thinking he means the room and not the planet, says by winning. Thor notes that it's not exactly a fair fight if his opponents are all wearing the same little zapper disc the Grandmaster used to take him out, but clarifies that he meant how did he get to Sakaar. Hulk makes flying motions and noises and says "quinjet". Thor says great...where is that now? Hulk climbs from the pool and both Thor and the camera avert their gaze upon realization that he is completely naked. He walks past Thor and points out the window. Chrissy: With his hand, thankfully. Diandra: Again, despite appearances, this is not actually a Deadpool movie. Thor runs to the window to find the jet in a sort of a clearing surrounded by garbage while Hulk goes to put on some pants. Thor gets excited by the prospect that he can get them out of this place and starts rambling about how Banner is going to love Asgard. Hulk is like 'nah, pass.' Thor whines that his people back on Asgard NEED him so they can prevent Ragnarok. Hulk is like 'me exposition fairy now. What Ragnarok?' Thor says it's the end of days according to a prophesy and... Hulk is like 'nope. Sorry. Don't care.' Thor promises to help Hulk get back to Earth if he helps get Thor to Asgard first. "Earth hate Hulk," Hulk grumbles. Thor says nah, they LOVE him back on Earth. "You were one of the Avengers!" Okay, buddy...a lot has happened since Ultron. The status and general likeability of the Avengers is kind of murky right now. Thor argues that he is Hulk's friend. Hulk says nah, he's Banner's friend. Thor scoffs like 'that dork? Nah. You're so much cooler.' Emilio: Why does this feel like high school all over again? Diandra: Because that's when the writers' maturity became stunted? No, that's not nice. Chrissy: It's probably not entirely wrong either. Hulk repeats that Thor can leave, but he's staying. Thor gets petty and makes snide comments about how ugly the décor in his room is and they both argue about who won that fight in the arena. I seriously don't know what the deal is with this script and I am alarmed that something so obviously catering to immature boys is considered one of the best installments of this series. Thor tries to leave, but is stopped by an electronic fence stretched across the entrance to the hall. He hits the ground and Hulk laughs like 'yeah, that was funny! Do it again!' So sometime later, Thor is standing at the window staring at the jet again when Hulk passes by in battle armor, announcing that he's gonna go train. He meets Valkyrie in the hallway, calling her "angry girl". Thor just sighs and closes his eyes. "Heimdall, I know you can see me. I need you to help me. Help me see." On Asgard, Heimdall seems to hear him and stops herding refugees for a minute. Because he has nothing better to do or because this much is actually doable, the next thing we see is Thor opening gold-colored eyes on Asgard. Heimdall is standing right in front of him, announcing that he can see him, but he's very far away. He shows Thor the devastation Hela has done so far and fills him in on the plan to hole the refugees up in a bunker their ancestors built. But, he says if the garrison falls they need to get to the Bifrost to escape. Thor notes that that would mean totally evacuating Asgard. Heimdall is like 'uh...yeah...if it's between that and total genocide, that is probably the option we should go with.' He reminds Thor that Hela is actually drawing power from Asgard and therefore getting stronger every day this goes on. And once she's done with Asgard, she'll start on the other realms. He says they could really use Thor's help. Thor grumbles that he's trying, but he doesn't even know where he is right now, exactly. Heimdall says the planet he's on is surrounded by doorways. "Go through one." This answer not being enough for Thor, he asks WHICH doorway he's supposed to go through. "The big one," Heimdall says and Thor vanishes before a zombie soldier can charge Heimdall right through him. Heimdall uses what looks like the giant ass sword from the Bifrost control to kill it. Sometime later, Thor tries to rip off the zapper disc, which doesn't work. Hulk is in bed and startles at his yowling. Hulk tries awkwardly to cheer up Thor, repeatedly noting that he's "sad". Thor raves that he's not SAD, he's PISSED because his father died and he lost his hammer. Hulk basically rolls his eyes and notes that he is whining. Thor whines that he is NOT and kicks a couple random objects around the floor. Hulk grabs the last one and throws it at him, yelling at him to stop doing that. Thor starts accusing him of being stupid and a horrible friend because he's officially out of ideas I guess. Hulk throws a blade into the wall beside him and picks up a mean looking club. Thor says he was right: Earth does hate him. Hulk drops the club and stomps around a little, huffing like a child throwing a tantrum. He stomps over to his bed and sits. Thor realizes that might not have been his best effort and goes over to apologize and retract every mean thing he said, but stress that Hulk shouldn't throw sharp things at people like that because he could kill someone. Hulk says sorry, but he's just so ANGRY. There's a weird little exchange I'm not going to bother with before they apparently decide they're cool now and Thor says he needs a favor. Morning. I guess. Valkyrie comes running in laughing and spars a little with Hulk because I guess that's just how she says hello. She notices that something is off though and her face falls when she sees Thor over by the window/wet bar. Chrissy: I thought you fucked him to death days ago! Diandra: Or at least sat on him and crushed him. Emilio: Or ate him. She grumbles that he must be "thick-headed" if he doesn't understand that someone who ran clear across the universe maybe doesn't want to talk to anyone from back home. He says they need to talk and appeals to Hulk to make her stay. He's like 'yeah, sure'. He rips the top jaw bone making up his bed and throws it across the room, blocking her path out the "door". Thor looks at him like '.........dude' so Hulk adds "please?" She says fine, walks over to the bar and grabs what looks like a gallon jug of whiskey. She says she will listen to Thor for as long as it takes her to finish it. She tips it upright and Thor begins that Asgard is in danger and he needs her to go back with him and help...he trails off as he realizes she has guzzled the whole bottle already. She drops it on the floor where it shatters and goes to storm off again. "Odin is dead," Thor calls after her. And Hela, the Goddess of Death and Lesbians has taken over. Chrissy: Lesbians? Emilio: Assuming you are confusing her with Cate Blanchet...yes. Yes, she is. Valkyrie says oh, well, if Hela is back then Asgard is definitely already screwed. Thor says he plans to stop her and Valkyrie looks him up and down like '..........really?' He says well, him, her and the big green guy bouncing a ball repeatedly back by his destroyed bed. Hulk is like NO I'M NOT. Thor corrects that it's just the two of them then. Team Asgard! Valkyrie is like 'not a chance, sparkle boy.' Thor blocks her from making an escape again and gives an awkward explanation of the legendary Valkyries - the elite warrior squad that functioned as the royal family's secret service. She says yeah, she knows Hela is his sister and she is SO DONE with the royal family's bullshit. Also, the last time her powers became greater than Odin's, she tried to take the throne. He banished her, she tried to fight her way back out and he sent the Valkyries to subdue her. This Valkyrie may or may not be the only survivor, it's not really clear. She rants about her devotion to the throne costing her everything and realizing that it is NOT worth it. He says this isn't about the THRONE, though, it's about the PEOPLE. THEIR people. She shoves him away and he thanks her. She asks what for and he holds up the trigger for the disk on his neck. Chrissy: Aww. You finally successfully did one of the tricks I taught you. He figures out how to disable it and removes the disk from his neck. How the hell he knows how to do this isn't clear. He attempts to use reverse psychology on her, inviting her to stay and keep helping that psycho find new slaves to battle each other for entertainment when she's not drowning in a bottle. He gestures for Hulk to pass him his ball and says "I choose to run toward my problems and not away from them." He throws the ball at the window to punctuate that statement while he adds "because that's..." and that's all he gets out before the ball rebounds and hits him in the head, knocking him to the floor. He bounces back up, shakes it off like 'that was totally what I meant to do' and finishes "that's what heroes do." And then he jumps right through the window and rappels down the side of the building. He locates the quinjet in the rubble and, despite it having flown halfway across the universe and spending two years in a garbage heap, he is able to turn on all the screens and controls. He places his hand on a panel and a voice prompts him to identify himself. He smirks and says his name. The computer bleats and says "access denied". He tries giving his full name and title as the god of thunder and it repeatedly denies him access. For some reason, he then tries "strongest Avenger", which doesn't work either. Chrissy: Yeah, not without your hammer, you're not. Diandra: Are you being Loki, or... Emilio: No, his mouth is too busy for talking right now. He remembers Tony was the one who set the controls and curses him before giving the correct password for his personal access: Point Break. The quinjet hums fully to life just before Hulk rips the back end of it off, yelling "friend stay!" He climbs onto the ship, smashing a few things without really intending to, and the jet powers back down. Thor punches a few buttons on the front panel until the last message Natasha sent Hulk back in "Age of Ultron" - the one where she begs him to disengage stealth mode and come back - pops up in hologram video. Hulk starts punching himself and throwing himself around the ship, phasing in and out of Hulk mode before collapsing on the floor. Thor goes to help him up, doing the "sun's going down" thing again, despite the fact that he's about a minute too late for that cue. Bruce blinks up at him and naturally his first question is "what happened to your hair?" Chrissy: This crazy old man cut if off with a weed whacker and promised to give some of it to "another Chris" to use on his face, whatever that means. He actually says as much...minus the reference to Captain America's beard...and Bruce makes sure to note that he looks good like that before asking where the hell they are and if Natasha is okay. Priorities. Thor is like 'uh.... she's... fine?' Bruce asks about Sokovia. Thor is like okay, so... you lost two years, apparently. Bruce gathers the giant sarong thing around him and pads over to the controls. At the security system's prompting, he gives his name and the system welcomes him as "strongest Avenger" to Thor's annoyance. Chrissy: How very prescient of Tony to program the system with a combination of names and titles that only really pays off in this exact scenario he couldn't have anticipated. Diandra: Including the part where Thor identifies himself as the strongest Avenger. It makes no sense as anything more than a throwaway gag. Emilio: You could probably say the same thing about 90% of this movie. Diandra: Good point. Bruce pulls up the ship's log, which plays a video of the last few seconds as the plane was crashing with Hulk pinballing around the cabin. He asks Thor where they are right now, but before Thor can answer, the Grandmaster gets on the city...or maybe planet...wide PA system to announce that his "beloved champion" has gone missing and he would appreciate if the citizens would help find him. Bruce asks who the hell THAT guy is. Thor is like uh...the boss? Kind of? You have been living in his palace and I'm pretty sure he's fucking my brother. Oh, and we fought each other for his amusement in an arena and I totally won without even breaking a sweat. The Grandmaster is still talking and the boys quiet long enough to hear "the criminally seductive Lord of Thunder has stolen him away." And no, I am NOT making that up. Chrissy: Yeah, he's also hella gay. Did I mention I'm pretty sure he's fucking Loki? Diandra: I would comment on the queer coding of another bad guy, but I'm pretty sure basically everybody is queer coded in this movie and Valkyrie's bisexuality was confirmed even if it will never be really mentioned for reasons. Thor growls that he's the seductive GOD of Thunder, thank you very much, and stomps toward the back of the quinjet while Bruce has a minor panic attack. Or identity crisis. Not really sure. Thor finds some clothes somewhere and shoves them at Bruce. Bruce immediately recognizes them as Tony's and asks if he's here. Emilio: Confirming the nature of the whole Science Bros thing: he knows what Tony's clothes look like even if they're not currently on Tony's body. Diandra: Also confirmed by Robert - at a promotional event for "Infinity War" - basically saying "by the way, Mark? I'm leaving you for Benedict. Bye!" Back in the palace, Loki and Valkyrie approach the Grandmaster, flanked by several armed guards. The camera focuses on their image in the mirrored floor and pans around dizzyingly to the real thing. Chrissy: And this is why the women around here don't wear skirts. Grandmaster greets them by announcing that he is very upset. He asks if they can guess who he's blaming for this whole mess right now. Loki starts to say something and Grandmaster snaps at him to not interrupt. Topaz hands him the baton weapon thing he was using earlier and he blinks at her. "Why are you handing me the melt stick? He was interrupting. That's not a capitol offense!" Emilio: At least not for pretty boys I can shut up in much more creative and fun ways. Topaz and Loki kind of glower at each other like maybe there's an ongoing grudge here and that's why she's eager to get rid of him. Emilio: Well...he is probably stealing her man from her. Grandmaster says right, so as I was saying. My champion is missing and it's all your brother's fault. Loki, calling the Grandmaster his "dear friend" asks for twelve hours, which he swears is enough to bring them both back in alive. Valkyrie announces that she could do it in two hours. Loki amends his estimate to one hour. Chrissy: Might as well give up. Hers is bigger. Grandmaster is like 'well, I was thinking of having a big, messy, public execution, but I kind of like this little competition thing you're offering here.' He sends them off with a dismissive little wave. Once they are out of earshot, Loki asks what that was all about. He goes to grab her arm and she punches him in the face. He resorts to his fall back: producing a knife from thin air. He asks why she would want to help Thor and the jolly green giant escape. She mirrors him because apparently all Asgardians can produce knives like this and sneers that she's not helping anyone. They fight a bit, freezing long enough at one point for him to get a look at her tattoo and come to the same realization Thor already did and note that he thought all the Valkyries were dead. She pins him to a wall with her knee and he apologizes for the painful memories she must have. Then he demonstrates a power I'm pretty sure we haven't seen him use yet in the MCU: jabbing his hand against her forehead to trigger a flashback. In some dream-like underworld or something, Hela faces off against a bunch of warrior women riding winged horses. There's a lot of slow motion cuts as Hela throws a seemingly unlimited number of daggers and bodies pile up on the ground. A woman we are just supposed to assume was probably our Valkyrie's lover jumps in front of a sword meant for her. Chrissy: So back to the queer coding thing... Like... literally the only reason anyone would assume that was her lover is because Tessa announced her character was bisexual despite the scene that supposedly verified as much being cut. Diandra: Yeah, it's not even in the extras. So homophobes can happily disregard that as an unproven theory and ship her with Loki for some reason. Emilio: The reason is probably that characters who express hatred of each other usually end up in bed together, but yeah... Valkyrie falls to the ground, dazed for a second, then launches at Loki, pinning him to the ground and knocking him out. Outside, Thor guides Bruce to a spot away from a crowded street, chanting about the sun getting low like he's afraid Bruce will just Hulk out again any second now. Bruce finally begs him to stop saying that. Chrissy: It's giving me a really weird boner! Thor says he's just trying to keep him calm. Bruce yelps that it's kind of hard to stay calm given that he's on an alien planet right now. Thor encourages him to think of it as just another planet and a new experience. Bruce moans that he can feel his neurons firing faster than his brain is probably capable of handling. He says this Hulk-out was different. He likens it to driving a car. Before he had one hand on the wheel and Hulk had the other. This time, Hulk stole the keys and locked him in the trunk. Thor is like 'yeah, but...you're back now, so...yay!' Bruce says no, see, because now he's afraid that if he turns into the Hulk again he won't be able to find his way back to Bruce. Especially if they're still on this planet that is "designed to stress me out." Thor brushes this off because he's working on a plan to get them off the planet and he's confident he will succeed. Except...you know...they're going to Asgard, not Earth, so if Bruce joins them he'll have to add a third planet to his "experience". Bruce is like '...........what?' Thor tries to give the abbreviated version of his people being in danger if he and whoever he can recruit don't fight this powerful being, aka, his sister. Bruce says yeah...um...WHAT?! "I don't wanna fight your sister. That's a family issue." Chrissy: Oh, but you'll slap his brother around like a Damnit Doll? Diandra: After he attacked Earth! Chrissy: Oh, so you only care about the beings on the one planet then. Okay. Racist. Bruce doesn't care how evil she is. He's done fighting. Also, refer to the previous fear that if he turns into the Hulk again, he'll never return. Thor splutters that he's trying to build a TEAM and the Hulk is "the fire". "You're just using me to get to the Hulk," Bruce says. Emilio: Ah...well...he is more...impressive... Bruce keeps muttering about how Thor is just using him and he doesn't care and he ISN'T HIS FRIEND while Thor splutters ridiculous and juvenile statements that are completely the opposite of what he told Hulk (i.e. he likes Bruce better). This whole movie is starting to read like a high school AU fanfic. Chrissy: He's not cool. He's totally lame. I wouldn't even sit with him at lunch. Diandra: Yeah. Like that. Seriously, discussion point: was this movie written by a middle schooler or just an adult with the maturity of one? Emilio: Both. Chrissy: And what does it say about the audience of these movies that so many people think this was the BEST of the "Thor" trilogy? Emilio: Oh, we know the answer to that one. The target audience is teenage boys, remember? Thor adds that Hulk is a far more useful tool against powerful evil beings though. Bruce is like 'yeah, tell me again how you're not just using me to get to him?' HE'S THE SMART ONE. Thor grumbles FINE, but they have to get out of this place anyway, so...let's focus on that right now. He grabs a shawl from nearby and starts wrapping it around himself, explaining that he's a fugitive and needs a disguise. Bruce is like 'I need one too!' and Thor is like 'dude...they're looking for a giant green half naked creature. You're fine.' But Bruce is now obsessed with this idea that he needs a disguise, so he puts on a pair of techie glasses he finds in the pocket of Tony's jacket - because I guess he just leaves a pair in every jacket he owns - and announces that he'll be Tony. Chrissy: He wishes. Diandra: See, Emilio? I told you she would play Tony the first chance she got. Emilio: Sorry, I stopped listening when he said "Tony and the Gypsy". Chrissy: That would make an awesome band name, wouldn't it? Then Bruce apologizes for picking at the crotch of the pants he's wearing because Tony wears his pants "super tight". Chrissy: And yet I still can't get Steve to notice. Emilio: Is it too late to recap the "Iron Man" movies with Christine playing Tony? Because I'm starting to think you really missed an opportunity. Thor starts guiding Bruce around the crowd again and promises he will never have to think about the Hulk again after they get to Asgard. Someone blows a cloud of green smoke at just that moment, right in Bruce's face. It turns out to be coming from a parade in honor of the Grandmaster's champion, complete with giant masks of the Hulk's face. Comedy. The two get separated in the crowd and find each other just before Valkyrie finds them both. Thor is like 'um...hiiiiiiiii. Fancy meeting you here. Yeah, I know I said I was leaving, but I got a little...distracted.' Chrissy: It happens a LOT. Seriously. Doctors kept trying to convince Mother he should be on medication. Valkyrie asks what the shawl is about. Thor says it's a disguise. She says it's a really bad one since she can clearly see his face. He pulls part of the shawl over the lower half of his face like 'so there!' She just rolls her eyes and starts walking away, nodding to indicate he should follow. As he's trailing after them, Bruce rambles about how pretty and strong she is and asks if those marks around her eyes indicate the number of people she's killed. Chrissy: Please. It's one for every hundred I killed. Diandra: Oh, come on. You can't be Valkyrie too. She asks who the hell this guy is anyway and why she feels like she knows him. Dazed, he says he feels like he knows her too. She takes them to the end of a hall and launches into a speech about how she has spent years in a drunken stupor in an effort to forget her past. She figured this was as good a place as any to hide and one day die. Thor is like 'I didn't wanna say earlier, but yes, you do drink too much and it will probably kill you.' She's like '...um...this isn't that kind of intervention, stupid.' She says she's done hiding from her problems and has decided she would rather die fighting that Hela bitch. So she's joining their team, whatever it's called. Thor wracks his brain for something cool sounding, but all he can think of is "Revengers". Chrissy: We did determine that he was never the brains of any operation. She makes a face, but he babbles that it makes sense because they're both getting revenge for something. Valkyrie is like 'okay, fine. Whatever. I have a present for you. I wrapped it and everything.' She opens the door at the end of the hall and we get the scene from the preview of Loki wrapped in chains looking embarrassed and Thor is like 'so did you remember to get the gift receipt?' Thor picks up the first object he can get his hands on and throws it at Loki, nailing him in the forehead, mumbling that he just wanted to be sure when Loki complains that that fucking HURT. Chrissy: Apology NOT accepted. Diandra: I didn't apologize, because the writers are establishing that casual abuse of Loki is funny. Remember that for later. Loki greets Bruce by first name, which...is that weird? Bruce, approaching Loki like he is a poisonous snake, notes that the last time he saw him, the Asgardian was trying to kill everyone. Chrissy: First of all...not Asgardian... Bruce asks what he's up to now. "It varies from moment to moment," Loki growls and Bruce stares wide-eyed like dude...last time you saw him you made a Loki-shaped crater in Tony's floor. He's really not that scary. It turns out this is Valkyrie's room. She pulls out a sword she was apparently storing just in case and Thor drools over the famous Dragonfang, the sword of the Valkyrie. Valkyrie is like 'god, you're like a child with a shiny object. Can we get back to how we get from Sakaar to Asgard waaaaaaaaaaaay on the other end of the universe?' She recommends a wormhole just outside city limits with a stop for refueling at Xandar. It'll get them to Asgard in about a year and a half. Thor is like 'yeah, that's one idea, but I'm going to reject it in favor of my idea of going through the giant, scary looking wormhole we can see through this window here.' Valkyrie is like 'yeeeeaaaaaaahhhh, that one's called the Devil's Anus and there's a reason for that.' Chrissy: It's really hot inside it and you can't get out once it sucks you in. Diandra: You're confusing it with the Devil's Triangle, aren't you? Chrissy: Possibly. Emilio: Also, it smells like shit. Diandra: Thank you, Emilio. Chrissy: Smells like, sure. But if you get any on you, you definitely did something wrong. Diandra: [loud, exasperated sigh] Bruce is like 'it's called WHAT?!' and Thor defensively says he didn't know they called it that. In fact, he didn't know it was called anything. He's just naturally attracted to things that are big. Chrissy: Yeah, tell us again how you like Bruce better than Hulk. Bruce wanders closer to the window and notes that The Devil's Anus looks like a collapsing neutron star inside an Einstein- Rosen bridge. So...a science fiction writer's wet dream. Valkyrie cuts in that if Thor wants to go through that they'll need another ship because it will destroy hers. Thor suddenly remembers that he is somewhat intelligent when it is convenient to the plot and says they'll need one that can withstand the "geodetic" force at the singularity. Bruce says it would also need "an offline power steering system that could also function without the on-board computer." Is...that redundant? Valkyrie just wants to make sure it has cupholders because this is starting to sound like a suicide mission and if they're going to die stupidly she plans to be drunk. Bruce repeats that he's still getting a sense that he KNOWS her from somewhere. Loki, whose brain has been visibly cranking gears for the past few minutes, starts to interject and Valkyrie chucks her latest emptied bottle at him angrily. He flinches as it shatters on the wall behind him, showering him in shards. Instead of saying 'fine, you don't want my help then fuck you,' he continues that he may have...sort of...stolen access codes to the Grandmaster's security system. Valkyrie snarkily asks if he's suddenly decided to do the right thing. Loki says no, seeing as he's no longer the Grandmaster's favorite chew toy, he's hoping that he can trade codes and a ship for "safe passage through the Anus." Chrissy: Sorry, I'm not used to having to beg for that. Also, before you ask, the reason I have fallen out of favor is definitely NOT that he has found a younger, more flexible model. Diandra: Mmmmkay. That...actually, that was more restrained than usual for you, Chris. Chrissy: Ask my brother if you don't believe I can do it. Last time we saw each other, I help guide him safely through my secret dark passage. Diandra: Yeah, that sounds more like you. Chrissy: It wasn't easy! It was a really tight fit. Diandra: Okay, you can stop now. "You're telling us you can get us access into the garage without setting off any alarms," Thor says warily. Chrissy: And then guide you through the anus because lord knows you need all the help you can get in that department. Bruce is like 'hold up, guys, I was talking to him when we came in a minute ago and I think he would totally kill us all if he had a chance.' Thor is like 'yeah, he's tried to kill everybody at some point. You're not that special.' He then launches into a story about how once when they were children he turned himself into a snake because he knew Thor loved snakes and transformed back when Thor picked him up before casually stabbing him. Because we all know Loki's love of stabbing things is a deeply rooted part of his personality that has been there since childhood. Emilio: And we know what Freud would say to that. Chrissy: That he can't stop thinking about fucking his mother? Diandra: I know you're being flip there, but there might actually be a connection between those two thoughts. And any psychologist could make the connection between stabbing and sex. Chrissy: Well, sure. Guys tend to equate all pointy objects with penises. Emilio: And dull ones. Loki kind of smirks like 'yeah...fun times. Thankfully, I finally got over that repressed rage connected to my forbidden desire to fuck my adopted brother.' Valkyrie says if this plan is going to work, they're going to need to draw some guards away from the palace. "Why not set the beast loose," Loki mutters. Emilio: Okay, but last time you couldn't walk for two days after. Diandra: Wow. Thor tells him to shut up and assures Valkyrie that he has no idea what beast he's talking about. Chrissy: Unless, of course, he is referring to the beast with two backs, but I'm not sure how that would help here. Diandra: Well, we were talking about distracting the Grandmaster, weren't we? Thor thinks a better idea would be to start a revolution. Um...you do understand that those don't happen overnight, right? Back in the holding cell of illusions, Korg points at the weird goo under Scissorhands and asks if that's some sort of protoplasm or eggs or... He is mercifully cut short by the door to the cell blowing open. All the prisoners' obedience disks deactivate and fall off at once. Valkyrie steps through the doorway with a bazooka in hand and tells Korg that the Lord of Thunder sends his best. She tosses the bazooka at Korg, who announces immediately that the revolution has begun. Yeah, sure. Why not? And because word gets around insanely fast on this planet where time is apparently really slow, the next thing we see is Grandmaster ranting at Topaz about how there could possibly be a revolution happening. People with weapons run around in the background while Topaz explains that all the obedience disks were deactivated and the slaves are now armed. The Grandmaster objects to her use of the word "slave". Topaz rolls her eyes and corrects that they are "prisoners with jobs". He's like 'see, that's much better!' Somewhere in a tower, Loki is punching what seems to be an insanely long string of numbers into a keypad by a door. Thor is casually leaning against the doorframe beside a guard they already downed. "Hey, so listen...we should talk," he begins. Loki is like euuuuurrrgggg, must we? It's not like our family was ever any good at that. He punches the last button with a flourish and the door opens. They step through at the same time, raising giant weapons...oh, stop giggling, both of you. Thor is like 'oh, boys!' and they start firing when the soldiers loitering next to a statue of the Grandmaster look up. What? Were they on their smoke break? As they duck behind part of a wall for cover, Loki says Odin brought them together so it seems "poetic" in a way that his death would separate them. They continue clearing the room and then Thor covers Loki while he drops his gun and starts punching numbers on the next panel. A door behind them shuts and Thor drops his gun. The door in front of them opens and a soldier shoves a gun in Loki's face. Thor just karate chops the gun barrel so it shoots into the floor, sending the soldier flying toward the ceiling and casually walks through the door while Loki watches for the guy to come back down. We cut to them in an elevator and Loki continues that he has decided he is probably better off staying on Sakaar, although based on what he was saying earlier that is contingent on the Grandmaster being removed from power and him becoming the new leader. Because we are focusing only on events from "The Avengers" and disregarding whatever character development happened in the two "Thor" movies on either side of it. Loki still wants to rule a planet because he is a megalomaniac who was totally not being mind controlled in "The Avengers". Chrissy: Oh, the fans who love this movie scoff at people who point out that the writers actually admitted that recently. Like it's a totally unbelievable fanwank and they're just catering to Tom's fangirls even though - as you noted in "The Avengers" recap - you can totally see them setting the stage for that reveal. Emilio: They said it in "Infinity War" too. Diandra: Yeah. This is why I tend to have a problem with fanboys. Anyway. Thor says yeah, this place is right up Loki's alley. Emilio: Speaking of right up his alley... Diandra: We know. You are intimately acquainted with the territory. Emilio: There are plenty of rumors to suggest you are too, THOR. He points out that the place is lawless chaos, so Loki would feel right at home and he could really "do great" in a place like this. Loki blinks and asks if Thor really thinks so little of him. Thor says nah, he thought the world of Loki and thought they'd fight their enemies together forever, but then this fanboy took control of the script and... He concludes that they are too different and their paths have "diverged" and he is no longer sure if there is any good in Loki. Chrissy: Dude. Diandra: I know. Loki, who would probably look more offended right now in a movie that wasn't dependent on the idea that he is incapable of redemption, agrees that it's probably best if they "never see each other again." Thor suggests that's what Loki always wanted anyway and pats him on the back awkwardly. Then, after a moment of silence, he suggests they "do Get Help." Loki says no, he hates it and it's humiliating. Thor asks if he has a better plan and, when Loki says no, declares that they're doing it. So when the elevator arrives at whatever floor, Thor is half carrying Loki and screaming hysterically for somebody to get help because his brother is dying. The three guards conveniently pile up in front of them and Thor throws Loki at them, apparently knocking them unconscious immediately. Loki climbs back up, grumbling about how much he hates Thor for making him do humiliating bullshit he thinks is funny and I'm going to move on before I risk getting into a rant about older siblings forcing younger siblings to do stupid things and we end up making this the longest recap I've ever written. Emilio: You'd probably still beat it with Endgame, but yeah. Let's not. Thor asks which ship it was Valkyrie told them to find again. Loki grinds his teeth and points to the "Commodore", a shiny gold sporty looking thing. They start walking toward it and Loki splits himself in two so his illusion can distract Thor while he really goes the other way. They only get a few steps before stopping and Thor looks at him and sighs. He turns to where Loki has reached a control panel some distance away and Loki assures him that this is nothing personal. He's just hoping to reap the reward for capturing the Lord of Thunder. Thor is like 'yeah, so remember when I patted you on the back earlier?' He pulls out a controller and triggers the obedience disk he put on Loki's back. Loki hits the ground, spasming. Thor decides this is not cruel enough yet, so he hovers over Loki to note how very painful that looks and chastise him for his dull, predictable nature that he is determined to never, ever work on so he will always fall tragically short of his potential. Thor casually tosses the controller over his shoulder, wishes Loki luck and leaves him to watch in horror as he saunters away, leaving his baby brother to die for all he cares. This was the point when I was actively WINCING in the theater the first time I saw this and was disturbed to hear the rest of the guys in the theater laughing. Because casual torture is funny, I guess. Chrissy: Okay, can we talk about it now? Because this whole thing feels totally out of character. Diandra: No fucking shit. I mean...I guess this looks like a more modernized equivalent of the part of mythology where Loki is left with poison dripping on his face until Ragnarok, but I thought we weren't following mythology. Also, I'm pretty sure THOR isn't the psycho who came up with that punishment. Emilio: Anyone want another beer? Diandra: Didn't we have something stronger? Why are we still sober? Chrissy: I think we kind of slowed down our drinking when Valkyrie showed up and made us feel awkward about it. Diandra: Yeah, that makes sense. But there's no way I'm getting through the rest of this sober, so get pouring. Thor jumps in the ship and flies it out of the hangar into the city. Grandmaster apparently immediately gets on the speaker system to announce that the Lord of Thunder has stolen one of his ships and his favorite champion. Emilio: And my favorite chew toy! Somebody stop him! He begs everyone to take to the skies and stop him from leaving the planet. One ship immediately gets on Thor's tail and starts firing. Valkyrie's ship comes up behind it and shoots it out of the sky. Bruce praises her shooting ability from the passenger seat. Chrissy: I think this part of the soundtrack might have been stolen from "Top Gun". Diandra: Or, like, any 80s action movie. Valkyrie comms Thor to open the bay doors on his ship, then flips her hatch and flies underneath the open doors. "I hope that you're tougher than you look" she calls to Bruce before ejecting him from his seat right up into Thor's ship. Thor laughs like the psychopath he is rapidly turning into in this movie. Bruce struggles to stand up and make his way to the cockpit, shrieking that they should be shooting back or something. Thor asks out loud where the hell the guns are on this thing. Valkyrie answers that there aren't any because it's a "leisure vessel" that the Grandmaster uses for "orgies and stuff". Bruce is like "did she just say..." and Thor is like 'that explains why all the surfaces are sticky. THANKS, Loki, for suggesting it.' Chrissy: Well, there IS probably I reason I knew about it. Emilio: I have pictures of him splayed out on that console you're using. Chrissy: You said you would delete those. Emilio: And you actually believed me? In the ensuing chase through the city, one of Valkyrie's engines is hit. Valkyrie is like 'fuck it' and gets out of her seat, climbing onto the roof of the jet. In the orgymobile, Thor and Bruce shriek with horror as her ship is blown out of the sky entirely. Then she comes flying toward them, catching onto the side. Thor yells at her to get in. She says yeah, she will, after she takes care of a couple things... She swings up on top of the ship and runs right off the back of it, landing on the one behind them and slowing her momentum by driving a knife into the hull, splitting it open. Basically, take the badass moves Heimdall was doing in "Dark World" and multiply by infinity. Thor, realizing he is letting a woman do all the heroic stuff without him, decides he should go "help" her and hands the controls over to Bruce. Bruce yelps that he doesn't know how to fly an alien ship, but Thor insists upon this arrangement because he needs to reaffirm his manliness or some bullshit. So while Valkyrie turns the guns of one ship back on other Sakaarians, Thor just rips pieces off ships with his bare hands and actually punches one until it falls out of the sky like a goddamn caveman. Meanwhile, Bruce, unable to believe there really aren't any guns on the orgymobile, punches a big button he thinks might fire something. Loud music plays, strobe lights light up the cabin and fireworks start shooting out of the place that, admittedly, was probably meant to fire something more deadly. This has the unintended effect of blinding Topaz, who was right on his tail, so she ends up flying right into a building. Thor and Valkyrie finish their little competition over who has the bigger dick (spoiler alert: it isn’t him) and land on the same ship. Thor tosses the pilot out and Valkyrie steers under the orgymobile so they can jump simultaneously back in. They have a brief moment where they look like they might kiss before realizing it's probably just adrenaline. Bruce announces that they're "coming up on the Devil's Anus". Chrissy: Well, that is the preferred way to do it. Korg and the rest of the misfit gladiators arrive in the ship bay and Korg exposits that the really big one they're standing in front of is their ticket out. Then he nearly steps on the controller Thor threw and picks it up, pushing the button like 'what does this do?' Loki, apparently unnoticed before despite not being that far away, groans and thanks him. Chrissy: Now if you would be so kind as to help me get vengeance on the asshole who left me here to DIE, I would be ever so grateful. And then there's a whole chunk of dialogue here that is just cringe worthy and pointless so I'm going to skip it. Chrissy: Alcohol kicking in then? Diandra: Fuck it. I don't care anymore. Bring on the testosterone fueled insanity. Valkyrie, with an assist from Thor, flies the orgymobile through the shitload of debris falling out of the portal. And then we just cut back to Asgard, where Skurge is commanding the Asgardians to tell him where they have the Bifrost sword hidden because come on, this isn't funny anymore. He makes a vague threat of "consequences" if it isn't recovered and looks pointedly at Hela, standing behind him, dwarfed by the enormous wolf laying behind her. Nobody says anything, so Hela points into the crowd and two of her undead soldiers drag out a random woman while everybody else backs up in terror. Skurge, starting to look uncomfortable with this situation, stands over the victim with a giant axe. He looks to Hela, who asks what the hell he's waiting for. He raises the axe and, before we can get an actual senseless execution, someone shouts "wait!" A man comes out of the crowd to say he knows where the sword is. Whether he's just saying this to stall for time, we don't find out yet as we head right back to the heroes escaping Sakaar. The orgymobile emerges from the Devil's Anus into space. Everyone has been knocked unconscious by the pressure of the singularity. Or something. I don't know. I've stopped caring about logic. They all come awake again and blink at the giant floating iceberg hovering in front of them. Jesus, is that really what Asgard looks like? Emilio: Well, it's really just a simulation on a giant computer controlled by mice, but... Diandra: You know, it takes real talent to bring everything back to Hitchhiker's. Emilio: Thank you. As they are flying down the Bifrost bridge toward the city, Bruce staggers from his seat and notes that he always thought it would look "nicer" and not, you know, like a war zone. Valkyrie immediately spots some heat signatures up in the mountains Hela is headed toward. Thor says 'cool, drop me off at the palace. That'll distract her.' Valkyrie is like 'yeah, that might work and will probably get you killed. Are you nuts?' He says it doesn't matter what happens to him, he's just buying time for the two of them to get all the people off Asgard. Bruce is like 'noble as that sounds, how the HELL do you expect us to do that?' "I have a man on the ground," Thor says cryptically. Cut to Heimdall looking badass. He announces to the gathered refugees that "she's here". Outside, Hela arrives on the other side of a deep cliff facing the door to the refuge. Back at the parked orgyship, Thor, having just made a trip to the armory, puts a gun onboard and hands Valkyrie a bundle of clothing. He says good luck and starts walking away. She replies with "don't die" and the orgyship takes off for the mountains. Inside the palace, Thor picks through the rubble of the fallen ceiling, hesitating when he sees his own face - miraculously intact - staring up at him. Hela throws spears into the door and pulls it down so it becomes a bridge across the gap so she can just swagger across it into the "stronghold", Skurge at her heels. Except the place is already empty because Heimdall has escorted everyone out the back and they're climbing down the mountain. Valkyrie finishes changing into her uniform and getting the machine gun mounted. Bruce looks back at her from the controls and she flashes him a smirk as she aims the penis substitute out the window like 'told you mine was bigger.' Thor sits on the throne and bangs a massive staff on the ground, which apparently is loud enough for Hela to hear and be immediately drawn back to the palace. She stalks toward the throne, her antlers retreating and notes that he's still alive. He notes that she redecorated since he's been away. "It seems our father's solution to every problem was to cover it up," she says through clenched teeth. Thor says nah, he also cast them out. Hey, did you hear about the time he took my hammer away from me and made me prove myself worthy to wield it again? Assngakhveviuhfjghhhhnnnn. Instead of rolling her eyes into the back of her head at Thor's ability to make this all about HIM, she grabs the opportunity to point out that he never knew Odin at his best: when they were conquering entire civilizations and slaughtering people. "Where do you think all this gold came from," she says. Fair point. And then he had Thor and became all benevolent and shit. Thor rambles that he understands why she's angry and she DOES have the right to the throne, and he keeps saying HE doesn't want it, but he just can't let her have it because "you're just...the worst." Chrissy: Says the heartless bastard who left his baby brother to die a long, painful death. She's like 'okay, that's it. Get down here.' She puts her antlers back on. He gets up and swaggers toward her, saying his father told him "a wise king never seeks out war." "But must always be ready for it," she finishes before launching herself at him. They both charge, weapons raised and...we cut away again before any blows actually land. Heimdall is leading the people down the rainbow bridge to the waystation. They stop halfway when they realize it is being guarded by Fenris the giant wolf. The wolf growls and Heimdall orders everyone to retreat. The wolf charges at them and is immediately stopped short by the orgymobile arriving, Valkyrie blasting away at him. The refugees don't get very far in their retreat because Skurge and Hela's undead army meet them coming from the other end of the bridge. We get a brief interlude of Thor and Hela fighting. She has already lost her weapon, but is still wiping the floor with him. Skurge demands Heimdall hand over the sword. Hela is still kicking Thor's ass, taunting him with the whole birthright thing again. And then, when he's down, she swipes her re-obtained sword at his face and he yelps, turning toward the camera so we can see the oddly blackened area where his eye should be because PG-13 ratings have weird, bloodless violence. She says there, now he reminds her of daddy. Chrissy: So basically, you all have daddy issues. Diandra: Yep! And now that the whole merger has made them all Disney characters we can expect a whole lot more of that! Emilio: Did you see the thing on Tumblr about how Thor and Loki are technically Disney princes now? Diandra: I remember it declaring them Disney prinCESSES, but whatever. The refugees and the undead are fighting on the bridge and Valkyrie is complaining that she can't kill this damn dog. Fenris starts charging again and Heimdall stands ready to fight him. Bruce sighs, gets up out of his seat and gives Valkyrie a little speech about how everything is going to be okay now because he's got this and she's about to figure out why he looks so familiar. He dives from the ship... ...and splatters unceremoniously on the bridge in front of Fenris. The music dies as Fenris stops and sniffs at him curiously, nudges him a little, and then just keeps charging. Just as he's about to clamp his jaws down on Heindall, Hulk grabs him by the tail and flings him back in the direction he came, roaring. They tussle a little and fall off the bridge. Meanwhile, Valkyrie realizes she's going to have to fly the ship now. Because NOBODY IS THINKING ANYTHING THROUGH. Hela takes Thor to the balcony overlooking the bridge to show him just how badly he's failed. Or is doomed to fail. And she vows she will get the sword for the Bifrost if she has to kill every single Asgardian on that bridge to get to it. Chrissy: Er...you would probably only have to kill Heimdall. Diandra: Yeah, and good luck with that. The refugees are fighting the undead horde. Because even the unwashed masses of Asgard know how to handle swords. But since one side can't be killed, the odds on the refugees winning without some sort of intervention are not good. Valkyrie crashes the ship onto the bridge, nearly beheading a few refugees on the way down. Heimdall is wounded and knocked to the ground, an undead soldier poised to deliver a death blow when Korg appears behind the soldier to blast him away. He pauses to introduce himself and Meik to Heimdall and ask if he wants to join them on their spaceship. Said spaceship doesn't seem to have technically arrived yet, so I have no idea how he got here. It pulls up to the bridge just then, Loki standing in the doorway theatrically announcing to the people of Asgard that their savior has arrived. Chrissy: It's like this whole movie is just a bunch of cool visual effects strung together haphazardly with lame jokes. Diandra: And there's the review, everyone. Right there. Cheers. [Drinks] Thor grins and then winces some more as Hela sneers and stabs him in the back. The refugees start piling onto the rescue ship while Loki saunters over to Heimdall. "Welcome home," Heimdall greets. "I saw you coming." "Of course you did," Loki mutters. Chrissy: No, I meant I saw you riding that crazy old guy. Diandra: Of course you did. Emilio: Life, uh...finds a way. Diandra: I'm not sure that actually works in this context, but I'll give you credit for finding a way to work that in anyway. Chrissy: Oh, like anything in this movie makes any more sense? Diandra: Yeah, that's a good point. Hence the alcohol. By the way, I could use a top up over here. Chrissy: I thought that was Emilio's glass. Emilio: Yeah, she started drinking from it a couple scenes ago when she finished hers. Chrissy: Would you like a fresh glass? Emilio: No, I'm fine. I have to drive home. Diandra: Good thinking. Can you give me a ride? Chrissy: We're at your house, Dee. Diandra: .........oh. Okay, then I can walk home. So Loki, Heimdall and an assortment of gladiators from Sakaar form a line between the refugees and the advancing horde of undead and the fight recommences. Hela is still taunting Thor that he doesn't stand a chance because he's fighting the Goddess of Death. She starts choking him with one hand and he has a vision of meeting Odin on that cliff in Norway again. Chrissy: So. How's the family reunion going? Diandra: Fuck you forever, DAD. Actually, dad just grumbles that Thor never could see the whole picture, even with both eyes intact. Chrissy: I like my version better. Emilio: Me too. Thor whines that he can't do this without his hammer because she's just too strong. Odin is like oh, sorry, I forgot you were the God of Hammers. Chrissy: Well, apparently Loki is the God of Knives and Other Stabby Things where the MCU is concerned. He says Thor's powers were never tied to the hammer - it was just a tool to focus his abilities. Thor is like 'okay, ignoring the fact that you totally failed to mention this before you died...' "It's too late. She's already taken Asgard." Odin just shrugs and says Asgard the PLACE doesn't matter and never did: it's wherever their people decide to call home. He looks at his surroundings and suggests that THIS PLACE could be Asgard, making this the second completely unsubtle hint he has made that the survivors of Ragnarok should settle in Norway on Earth so maybe Thor will actually pick up on the suggestion. Chrissy: Or not. Emilio: Yeah, we did establish that he's not very bright unless the plot requires him to be. Thor whines that he's not as strong as Odin. Odin thinks he's stronger. And Thor returns to where Hela is strangling him and prompting "what were you the god of again?" Sparks run along his hands and take over his eyes and a giant bolt of lightning smashes the palace wall behind her. All allies down on the ground look up like 'oh, look who finally decided to join us.' And then the Immigrant Song plays across the soundtrack again as Thor rides a bolt of lightning over to the undead horde and starts blasting the shit out of them. Fireworks spit from the crashed orgymobile to herald the arrival of Valkyrie into the battle. Like...seriously, I'm starting to wonder if the same people raving about how awesome this movie is are the ones who are dazzled by Michael Bay movies. Emilio: Or Mission Impossible movies. Chrissy: No, those at least have some substance between overblown action sequences. Diandra: James Bond movies? Chrissy: Is there even a difference between James Bond and Mission Impossible anymore besides the accents? Diandra: Good point. Hulk and Fenris are still duking it out in the water somewhere. Loki is using his helmet as a weapon. Skurge is just kind of standing off to one side by himself having a crisis of conscience or something. This goes on for way longer than is really necessary and only starts winding down after Fenris and Hulk's fight ends with them going over the waterfall the Asgardians use for burial. Thor and Loki come face to face and Thor snaps "you're late." Instead of pointing out that by all rights he shouldn't be here AT ALL and if Thor wanted him to be he wouldn't have LEFT HIM TO DIE, Loki just snips back "you're missing an eye." Valkyrie stalks past them, pointing out that they're not done yet, so if the boys could hold off on their little spat for a while... The three of them face Hela, who has arrived on the bridge, all of them panting and worn out. Loki says Thor should hit her with a blast of lightning. Thor is like 'oh, you mean like I've ALREADY done about fifty times?!' Chris Hemsworth full on slides into his Australian accent and nobody seems to notice. Valkyrie says it's fine: they just need to hold her off as long as it takes the survivors to board the rescue ship. Thor is like yeeeeeaaaah, that's not good enough. Because Hela's power is going to keep growing and she will hunt them down. Chrissy: And try to take over other worlds? Or did we forget about that part? Diandra: Probably. Whatever. This recap is getting way too long and I'm ready to be done with it. Chrissy: So the alcohol is definitely kicking in. Emilio: Yep. Whatever. Point is, they need to stop her right here and now. Somehow. Valkyrie asks how they're going to do that and Loki announces that he is NOT doing Get Help again. Thor looks pointedly back at the people boarding the ship and recites what the ghost of his father told him in a hallucination while his crazy sister was strangling him. "Asgard is not a place. It's a people." Loki frowns like 'and that helps us how?' Thor whirls on him, spewing the epiphany he's just had: that they are not supposed to STOP Ragnarok. They are meant to CAUSE it. "Sutur's crown. The vault. It's the only way." Loki immediately understands what he's saying and is like 'okay, well, that's crazier than anything I would have come up with, but since we're out of ideas...' He runs in the opposite direction of Asgard and the approaching Hela for reasons that are as yet unclear. Thor and Valkyrie have a little showdown with Hela, but since they're basically repeating the same fighting maneuvers over and over it's basically a boring, zombie-less let down now. The orgymobile flies over their heads, piloted by Loki, who is muttering that this is fucking crazy and he should have just stayed dead on Svartlfeim. Or whatever it was called. Chrissy: What Dee is trying to say is that Loki is channeling his inner Tom Hiddleston and questioning his career choices. Diandra: You know, you could just tell me my jokes aren't working. Chrissy: I could, but you get cranky when you're drunk. Inside the rescue ship, Skurge is huddled with the women and children, wearing a shawl and pretending to be just another refugee. Thor interrupts the still ongoing fight scene when he notices everybody is on board the ship, telling Heimdall to just go now and don't wait for him. The ship starts to take off and Hela summons a massive spear from the water below to throw at it. Loki arrives at the vault beneath the palace and grabs the crown from its pedestal. Then he passes by the glowing Tesseract and hesitates. More undead soldiers appear from....somewhere...and use the spear as a gangplank to board the escaping ship. Skurge looks at the cowering, terrified citizens and the lone soldier trying to keep the zombies at bay and finally decides to do the right thing. He produces Des and Troy from freaking nowhere, throws off his shawl and starts blasting the zombies in slow motion like he's channeling fucking Rambo or something. Chrissy: And this is probably when the DudeBros in the audience declared this the best MCU movie ever. Diandra: Nah, the raging boners they got from this probably made thinking impossible. Skurge growls "for Asgard" and leaps from the open doorway, shooting his way down to the bridge, milking the shit out of his hero moment. He glances back to see the ship taking off with people looking down at him curiously and - now fully invested - charges at Hela. Where Thor and Valkyrie have disappeared to in the last few seconds isn't really clear. Hela sighs and throws a spear into him and he gets a moment of mournful choir music as he drops. Because he DIED A HERO, DAMNIT. Loki throws the crown on the eternal flame and says the magic words to summon Sutur. Hela menaces toward a suddenly reappearing Valkyrie, who is flailing around on the ground. Before she can finish her, Thor distracts her by announcing that she has won and Asgard is all hers. Hela is like 'yeah, I'm not falling for that trick, whatever it is.' "You can't defeat me." At just that moment, the palace behind Thor starts rumbling and bursting into flames. Thor says yeah, he realizes that, so he's just going to leave it up to that guy. Sutur bursts from the crumbling palace and roars. Valkyrie runs at Hela and knocks her down with a flying leap. Thor blasts a hole in the Bifrost with a bolt of lightning. How either of these things accomplish much isn't really clear. Sutur starts smashing half of the buildings around him and setting fire to the rest. Thor and Valkyrie take a moment to recap what is going on for the audience. They are fulfilling the prophecy about Sutur destroying Asgard because it is the only way to destroy Hela and save their people. Yes, it is as awkward as it sounds. So it is perhaps merciful when it is interrupted by Hulk crawling out of the water and launching himself at Sutur, screaming and Thor yells at him to cut that out because they WANT him to do what he's doing. Hulk lands on Sutur's crown and gets in a few punches before Sutur plucks him off and tosses him back to the bridge. Now that he's closer, he can hear Thor yelling at him to knock it off and he whines "big monster" like 'what do you expect me to do? NOT fight the giant devil guy?!' Then he mutters "fine", picks up Thor and Valkyrie and leaps at the retreating rescue ship. Chrissy: Okay, is everyone here now? We're not leaving Matt Damon behind so somebody has to go rescue him from ANOTHER planet, are we? Emilio: No, we're not doing that a third time. Three strikes and we leave him to die. Hela emerges from the water, throwing spears at Sutur and Sutur drives an enormous flaming sword in the general direction of where she is, apparently killing her instantly. On the rescue ship, the survivors watch Sutur plunge the sword into the ground, creating shockwaves that destroy everything within a mile or so radius. Korg says it doesn't look that bad. As long as the foundations hold up, they could always rebuild... Sutur and the entirety of Asgard are consumed by a massive explosion and Korg is like 'yeah, never mind.' There's a long shot of the ship hovering in space while the survivors watch the entirety of Asgard turn into a giant fireball and Thor is like 'what the hell did I just do?' A LITTLE LATE TO BE SECOND GUESSING THE PLAN NOW, SPARKLES. Heimdall assures him that he saved their species from extinction. Chrissy: Wait...so I just went on a suicide mission to raise Sutur and THOR gets all the credit for winning the battle while nobody even realizes I enacted his crazy ass plan or even cares that I just disappeared? Diandra: [makes vague gestures] Yes? Chrissy: Typical. Sometime later, Thor retreats to his cabin and pours himself a glass of liquor while he inspects his new eye patch in the mirror. Loki appears behind him and notes that the look suits him. Thor generously acknowledges that Loki turns out to have not been so bad after all and if he were really here he might even give him a hug. He picks up some sort of metal thing and slings it at Loki. Loki catches it and we flash to a brief shot of the outside of the rescue ship where the orgymobile is parked on top of it like this totally explains how Loki managed to get on board when nobody was looking or apparently caring one way or the other. Which kills the joke Emilio and I came up with after we saw the movie the first time and didn't notice this which involved Loki escaping through Sutur's anus. Chrissy: I just assumed he used the Tesseract. Diandra: Obviously, but that's not as funny. And then we have to have the hero ending of Thor taking his "throne", which is a seat at the helm of the ship, while everyone else watches. Heimdall asks the newly minted King of Asgard where they should go now. The Ghost of Odin, hovering in the corner somewhere, screams "NORWAY, FOR FUCK'S SAKE! God, you've always been the stupidest of my children!" Thor hems and haws and finally says Earth? Maybe? Yeah, why not. On that completely unsatisfying note (and obviously ignoring the painfully unfunny stuff with Korg), we smash to credits while the DudeBros rush to the nearest computer to declare this the best Thor movie ever and anyone who disagrees is stupid and wrong. Midway through the credits, we get a brief scene of Thor and Loki standing at a window somewhere on the ship while Loki asks if Thor really thinks taking him back to Earth is a good idea. Thor is like 'meh, it'll be fine.' And then a ship fifty times larger than theirs floats into view, accompanied by ominous music. Stay tuned for the resolution to this scene...after the next, much better movie that the DudeBros will perhaps unsurprisingly declare "sucks". After the credits, we get a little scene of the Grandmaster falling out of a heap of metal and being surrounded by scavengers. He blusters that he's proud of them because the Revolution was a big success and "yay, us!" Everybody stares at him silently and he rambles that really he was a big part of it because you can't have a revolution without somebody to overthrow and "you're welcome". Chrissy: Well, that's one way to spin it. Diandra: Oh, thank god it's over. That was way more annoying and less fun than I hoped it would be. Emilio: That's why we're here: to get you through it. Chrissy: With alcohol and snark. Diandra: Thank you. I love you both. Have I mentioned that lately? Chrissy: Maybe we should let her dry out a bit before we move on to "Black Panther". Emilio: Probably a good idea. Diandra: Somebody wanna drive me home? I think I had too much to drink. Chrissy: Again, sweetie: you are home. Diandra: Oh. Right. I can just bike then. Emilio: [after a long pause] Should we tell her that's a stationary bike? Chrissy: Nah, she'll figure it out. This is Diandra. I feel like I have to add some analysis here now that I've dried out and spent the last few days typing the mess that was this recapping session. When I try to explain to people the difference between my recaps and official reviews I always come to this main difference: recaps are more detailed. I have to pull every scene, every exchange apart and describe it. I reference things that are not actually on the screen and I make goofy comments. Chrissy and/or Emilio do their level best to distract me. As one person described it: I "inhale" the movies. This is why I don't recap movies I hated the first time I watched them, but it is possible for me to come out of a recap with a different opinion of something than I went in with. I wasn't sure how "The Dark World" would go, but I enjoyed recapping it so much that I am now confused by people who label it the worst "Avengers" movie. "The Winter Soldier" was a dull slog, but it wasn't as bad as I feared. This, however, was one time where my opinion of the movie turned sour AS I WAS RECAPPING. I knew in terms of the continuity of the overall MCU storyline it was a pretty unimportant detour, but I figured it would be fun enough to justify doing the recap. I guess it was at first. But as I struggled through the last thirty minutes or so of painfully stupid dialogue and a story that seems to have been scribbled on the back of a poster for the latest "Transformers" movie in crayon I started wondering if I wouldn't have been better off just skipping it. I saw a lot of commentary online declaring this the best installment in the entire MCU and expressing the wish that Taika would take over the entire franchise and treat every movie with the same irreverence that he did this one. This comes even from people whose tastes in film I normally trust and may be why for a while I convinced myself that I had missed something and it was better than it really is. I now realize that I agree with the rare voices I found bemoaning it as a complete departure from established characterizations. And our comparison to "The Final Problem" at the beginning of this recap is distressingly apt here, because I have seen those voices dismissed as simply angry Loki fangirls, much like critics of TFP are dismissed as loudmouthed shippers. Yes, there are probably a few crazy voices in both of those groups (as there would be in any group), but reducing all criticism to those assumptions is just as offensive as refusing to even acknowledge that some of that criticism is perfectly valid. And frankly, it is also sexist because it assumes that these women (and they are almost always women) never understood the canon "correctly" as men inherently do. Anyway. Just figured I'd explain why this recap turned out the way it did and why I will think of it from now on as the equivalent of a sort of inter-acte. A passing diversion between actual numbers.